World Cup Final match thread
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Possibly the only person in NZ that wouldn't mind if Richie does retire?<br><br><img src="http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/31/35c81bae129b4e3cb7c6ba6c11a62ecd.jpg" alt="35c81bae129b4e3cb7c6ba6c11a62ecd.jpg">
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It has all been said - what a performance. The whole team/squad/management take a bow. I love the who dares wins approach. They went out to win, not 'not to lose'<br><br>
2011 felt like Richie willed us the cup. This time it was DC. Just like the semi final, when it got hairy, Carter stepped up big time. The huge raking touchfinder was important - we were losing the kicking battle in the minutes before then. That drop goal and penalty to boot. This is after getting whacked around by Sio in the first half - he's tough. Total class on and off the field. Champion players deserves this moment.<br><br>
Wallabies did bloody well to manage the onslaught early and limit and then obviously the comeback. They are some team. Excellent tournament for them and great to have the proper Wallabies back.<br><br>
What a performance by the whole team - NMS is a total weapon, SBW delivered like he has all tournament (he seems to grown up since being a father), Whitelock was amazing again, Kaino his physical best, Aaron Smith playing super quick etc. The management and coaching as well - Hansen what a coach, and the rest (coaches, selectors, strength and conditioning, mental skills).<br><br>
I thought old firm all were special tonight - Richie everywhere, Nonu continuing on his crazy form (awesome tackle on beale and of course that try), Conrad smart summed up by that first try and Mealamu with some trademark runs off the bench...<br><br>
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<p>So Ben Franks played 22 minutes, and no penalties. </p>
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<p>Quade's staying, isn't he?</p>
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<p>Not according to reports. His agent apparently signed something which means QC is out of pocket $200K if he renegs, and the owner of the club (Toulon? Yes, Toulon) said he'll come after the ARU if he needs to - not because of the money, but just because he's a billionaire and could probably buy the ARU if he wanted. See below - this was April. Think Quade had cold feet after McKenzie left, and Foley started getting game time. Plus all the "ITS A NSW CONSPIRACY!" shit flying around. </p>
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<p>There were a LOT of angry QLDers unprepared to accept McKenzie was anything but a saint.</p>
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<p>Anyway, the word is that Quade is going to honour his deal and play 2 years in France. He meets the 7 year rule but not the 60 Test rule (58 caps I think) so would be toast as far as Wallaby selection goes.</p>
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<p><img src="http://www.superxv.com/uploadedbigimages/Quade_Cooper30.jpg" alt="Quade_Cooper30.jpg"></p>
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<p>In a local rugby website here - after instant dismissal of the vision on the grounds that Lovely Lancelot wasn't even looking, didn't know anyone was there, it wasn't a stomp and, anyway, Cynical Sir Richie the Cheat was cynically gripping his leg to cynically impair his superiority, the linked report now redirects to a piece about <strike>him</strike> Him rescuing a kitten trapped in a tree or something, owned by a kiddie, on his day off, a Sunday in fact.</p>
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<p>I'm asking for trouble here, but here are the facts - looking purely at the vine provided:</p>
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<p>1) Pocock isn't looking at McCaw as you say</p>
<p>2) McCaw grabs the leg with both arms, and is rolling backwards as he goes to deck, and is basically prone on his back.</p>
<p>3) Pocock pulls against the hold once, then again to free himself.</p>
<p>4) As Pocock frees himself, McCaw grabs for the leg again, maybe to protect himself, but its not clear because it happens too fast and the quality of the video isn't clear enough</p>
<p>5) McCaw kind of rolls to the left - another AB (Carter?) has landed with his shoulder in McCaw's left inner thigh which might force him to roll in addition to evasive action from the boot</p>
<p>6) Pocock plants his foot as McCaw rolls. If McCaw's head had stayed where he first grabbed the leg, its highly like the foot would have landed near it, not on it.</p>
<p>7) The probable contact point doesn't seem to be in shot - you can't see any part of Pocock's lower leg as it begins its journey from the top of the knee lift - maybe a brief blur of boot on the way down.</p>
<p>8) Contact point could be boot studs, the stitching on the side, Pocock's ankle or shin bone</p>
<p>8) McCaw checks his head as he gets back to his feet.</p>
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<p>McCaw's clear intent is to take Pocock out of play by grabbing his leg. Pocock's clear intent is to keep himself in play by freeing his leg then moving forward to the next breakdown.</p>
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<p>Would be good to see another angle if anyone has one. Or better definition video.</p>
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<p>BUT, you'd have to be a complete idiot to deliberately stomp someone's head, given the TMO has so many angles covered, and the ARs are meant to be looking for this sort of thing. And Pocock, having been warned about using his knee on the Welsh, isn't that stupid, despite what some might like to believe. Nor is he a saint as the continued unfunny content likes to portray.</p> -
Watching the final once more - how good was it to see one last burrowing run from Mealamu off the bench making 5 more metres than you'd initially expect going into the tackle.<br><br>
Missed in all of this a very solid player and really the first prototype for the more mobile fourth loosie style hooker. Will be missed. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="537598" data-time="1446329179"><p>I haven't actually seen the game because I was shagging a blonde Norwegian lass and slept in. And she's a nurse. So really I don't give a flying fuck about rugby union world cups right now.<br><br><br>
But congratulations to the boys for the great win. And to myself as well. Championship parade on Wednesday for all of us.<br><br><br><br><br>
I thought that bloke in the photo next to Richie was James McOnie at first. It was the beard.</p></blockquote>
Hey, we're all sharing the world cup glory so if you've got something better you'll need to share that too.<br><br>
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<p>Hey, we're all sharing the world cup glory so if you've got something better you'll need to share that too.<br><br>
Pics or GTFO</p>
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<p>seems I have run out of likes for the first time ever! </p>
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<p>Pocock's clear intent is to keep himself in play by freeing his leg then moving forward to the next breakdown.</p>
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<p>Watching the replay , it was SBWs head that Kepu tried to remove at the 41 minute mark. piston wristed gibbon.</p>
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<p>And it was Pocock's head that Kaino tried to remove at 58:05. piston wristed gibbon.</p>
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Just about all of that is irrelevant Nick. I don't think anyone here is accusing Pocockwomble of a deliberate stomp on the head. <br>
We can all see McCaw holding the leg. I bet both players held each other as long as they could get away with all game. <br>
The fact is that Pocockwomble put his foot down and it connected with McCaws head. The onus is on him to take sufficient card that he doesn't do this. Heads are sacrosanct. Boots on heads usually draw a punishment. The severity of that punishment takes into account any mitigating factors. <br>
Remember Adam Thompson tapping a players headgear covered head lightly with his foot as notice to get it out of the way of the ball? Was correctly cited and punished. <br>
Horwill was cited and in most eyes got off very lightly. <br>
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And it was Pocock's head that Kaino tried to remove at 58:05. piston wristed gibbon.<br><br>
Next question?</p></blockquote>
I didn't realise that two wrongs make a right now. Got a link?<br><br>
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Shot my load this morning....sheesh, sorry, I'm usually better than this!<br></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="537809" data-time="1446347844"><p>That sounded a bit rehearsed there.</p></blockquote>Yeah like he's said it to girls before.
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<p>Im not sure how everyone else is coping but when does the full body orgasm stop?</p>
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<p>seems I have run out of likes for the first time ever! </p>
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<p>Shot my load this morning....sheesh, sorry, I'm usually better than this! </p>
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<p>only got a quick look on replay but has anyone had a chance to look at aus second try.was foley ahead on genia on the kick chase</p>
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<p>Would have been worth going to the TMO for that try. Foley looked about half a metre offside when Genia kicked the ball. Still, swings and roundabouts and all that.</p> -
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only got a quick look on replay but has anyone had a chance to look at aus second try.was foley ahead on genia on the kick chase</p></blockquote>
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<p>Just about all of that is irrelevant Nick. I don't think anyone here is accusing Pocockwomble of a deliberate stomp on the head.</p>
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<p>Uh, yeah... and before you ask: I <strong>do</strong> have a lot of time on my hands :D</p>
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<p>Was that Bonocock doing the stamping? If so I'm glad the arsehole goes home with a runners up medal tonight.</p>
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<p>Was pretty disappointed with how the Wallabies approached the game. Brought the filth</p>
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<p>Whatever, it's dirty play to stomp on someone's head.</p>
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<p>Yeah! It's your fault if you get stomped!</p>
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<p>Who's the grub now.</p>
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<p>Thank goodness the far better team won given the bullshit dirty play the Wallabies brought to this final</p>
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<p>Thats a stamp, same thing will happen that did after the 2011 Final...nothing.</p>
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<p>You've at least had the good grace to pull back from your original comment of</p>
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<p>Maybe it was sign language?<br><br>
Grubby, but he will no doubt use the Horwill defence.</p>
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<p>In addition to that, your continued use of your unamusing names for Pocock makes you all look pretty churlish. Its about as funny as the Aussies using "McCheat" over on the other site.</p>
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<p>As I said above: show me another video angle with clear contact and/or Pocock looking at his target and I'll go right for it. As you said: the onus IS on players to make sure they don't kick anyone in the head, so the commissioner should cite him by all means. If it comes to a case and he gets pinged, you'll get no argument from me.</p>
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<p>Just don't be hypocrites about it.</p>
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