All Blacks 2021

mariner4life

Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

Machpants

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

Get Jordan the minutes at 15 so he can play there next year when Roger has the 14 jersey locked down.

Lol, yeah right

Chris

@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

So something like this:

9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett

21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/Clarke

That looks much better to me, but right now given that we aren't sure if he is coming back or not, I wouldn't put any time into Dmac. Rather, I'd rotate Mo'unga, BB, and Jordie in the 22 jersey.

I think whoever is picked as the first choice 10 needs to keep starting as much as possible.
The more a 10 starts the better he gets at running the teams systems etc.
Changing 10's all the time disrupts the team developing IMO.

Chris

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

@gt12 I don't see JB being preferred to Ioane as the midfield cover if we start with Havili and ALB. To me, Jordie either starts at FB or isn't in the 23. And if he starts at FB then he is the most likely to be replaced at some stage (by BB or DMac).

So something like this:

9 Smith
10 Mo'unga
11 Ioane
12 Havili
13 ALB
14 Reece
15 J Barrett

21 TJP
22 B Barrett/DMac
23 Jordan/Clarke

Yeah that look's better,Much better balance with that 23,

Frank

Never heard of Roger T until recently.
Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

canefan

@frank said in All Blacks 2021:

Never heard of Roger T until recently.
Looks like a more muscled and quicker version of NMS??

Machpants

People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

mariner4life

@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

canefan

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

SBW was a back rower who moved to the midfield

RTS is a shit hot fullback who will play wing.

Korobete is a good comparison, he was good pretty much straight away.

And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

Chris

@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

People seem to forget sbw played two sessions in France before coming to NZ and the ABs. Even then he still couldn't de League his tackles, and had kick it dead and get a yellow brain farts for ABs. RTS had heft it too late to make the RWC squad imo, especially with covid disruptions

He also will be almost 31 come WC time,
Old for a winger now a days.
Unless he is moved to the MF he may struggle to make it.

Bovidae

@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

mariner4life

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

antipodean

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

a different species?

ACT Crusader

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….

mariner4life

@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

So Kata will be at 2023 and RTS not….

fuck that's actually really funny

canefan

@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:

And didn't RTS play first 15 at Auckland Grammar?

Otahuhu College. He made some Blues/NZ age group rugby teams so does have some pedigree.

RTS will have to re-learn some skills. I noticed that Kata doesn't look comfortable placing the ball when tackled.

RTS is to Kata what Cullen was to, say, Ben Blair

So Kata will be at RWC 2023 and RTS not….