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@Chris-B said in World Test Championship:
@nzzp I think there were two of them - brothers.
Umar was the batsman who looked like a million dollars, Kamran was mainly a keeper who wasn't particularly great. But, cricinfo tells me Umar also kept wicket.
A similar case to Umar - who remembers Vinod Kambli? Came up through the grades with Sachin and they were supposed to be twins in talent. Poor old Vinod - dropped with a test average of 54 and never played again.
And a test bowling average of 7.
A quick Google indicates a heart attack in 2013 (angioplasty on two blocked arteries). Maybe health problems affected his form (yes, 2013 is 18 years later, but maybe things had started to block up ... or maybe diet and exercise that ended up in health problems started to kick in... who knows)
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Cricinfo puts it down to weakness against the short ball. He also averaged less than 10 batting in the second innings.
He was also repeatedly recalled to the ODI side and never broke through there which presumably hurt his chances of a test recall.
He had consecutive double centuries plus two more centuries in his first 7 or 8 tests.
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@Cyclops Yeah - the West Indians sorted him out - even on Indian pitches.
I think the conclusion was that his flying start in test cricket wasn't a true reflection of his talent - he wasn't as good as those early stats suggested.
He was also a completely different personality to Sachin. A bit of a wild child, party animal - an Indian Jesse Ryder? - which didn't go down well with the powers that be.
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Terrific article on the Black Caps and their recent success ( although nothing fern experts like us don’t already know )
Slack Caps no more: the numbers that tell the story of a meteoric rise
Just a jaw-dropping collection of stats.
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@MN5 Interesting reading his comments on the 2012 tour to the Windies.
I thought John Wright would be great for us - as he was for India (and subsequently won the IPL coaching Mumbai).
But, he didn't get the results - and sounds like the team were pretty unhappy with him in charge.
Anyone read anything definitive about what went wrong in that era?
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@Chris-B said in World Test Championship:
@MN5 Interesting reading his comments on the 2012 tour to the Windies.
I thought John Wright would be great for us - as he was for India (and subsequently won the IPL coaching Mumbai).
But, he didn't get the results - and sounds like the team were pretty unhappy with him in charge.
Anyone read anything definitive about what went wrong in that era?
John Buchanan. Didn't read it, lived it though 🙂
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@Chris-B said in World Test Championship:
@MN5 Interesting reading his comments on the 2012 tour to the Windies.
I thought John Wright would be great for us - as he was for India (and subsequently won the IPL coaching Mumbai).
But, he didn't get the results - and sounds like the team were pretty unhappy with him in charge.
Anyone read anything definitive about what went wrong in that era?
That was about the time Justin Vaughan also fell on his sword, complete waste of space that he was. Not that I've been overly impressed with his successor David White when it comes to arranging Test cricket for NZ - we should have been playing the minnows away where possible
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@Siam said in World Test Championship:
@Chris-B said in World Test Championship:
@MN5 Interesting reading his comments on the 2012 tour to the Windies.
I thought John Wright would be great for us - as he was for India (and subsequently won the IPL coaching Mumbai).
But, he didn't get the results - and sounds like the team were pretty unhappy with him in charge.
Anyone read anything definitive about what went wrong in that era?
John Buchanan. Didn't read it, lived it though 🙂
Yeah - I'd forgotten about him. Warnie's mate!
Now that I think more about it, I'm pretty sure BMac gave a bit of a blow-by-blow account of the lead up to Rossco's sacking in his book - giving his side of the story in any event.
Whole atmosphere laced with politics and suspicion.
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@SynicBast said in World Test Championship:
@Chris-B said in World Test Championship:
@MN5 Interesting reading his comments on the 2012 tour to the Windies.
I thought John Wright would be great for us - as he was for India (and subsequently won the IPL coaching Mumbai).
But, he didn't get the results - and sounds like the team were pretty unhappy with him in charge.
Anyone read anything definitive about what went wrong in that era?
That was about the time Justin Vaughan also fell on his sword, complete waste of space that he was. Not that I've been overly impressed with his successor David White when it comes to arranging Test cricket for NZ - we should have been playing the minnows away where possible
Justin Vaughan was the absolute epitome of a ‘part rounder’ as a player. One would have hoped he was a far superior administrator but sounds like he wasn’t.
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@SynicBast said in World Test Championship:
@Chris-B said in World Test Championship:
@MN5 Interesting reading his comments on the 2012 tour to the Windies.
I thought John Wright would be great for us - as he was for India (and subsequently won the IPL coaching Mumbai).
But, he didn't get the results - and sounds like the team were pretty unhappy with him in charge.
Anyone read anything definitive about what went wrong in that era?
That was about the time Justin Vaughan also fell on his sword, complete waste of space that he was. Not that I've been overly impressed with his successor David White when it comes to arranging Test cricket for NZ - we should have been playing the minnows away where possible
Might be revisionist history but I think Vaughan was there when the finances completely changed and India emerged as the one with biggest purse, despite England and Australia "controlling" the game.
I think it was the time when one Indian tour brought in a year's operating costs - a deal too good to turn down. Also the time when we acquiesced to non green top wickets and the likes of Dravid being inserted into the Canterbury team to play warm up matches in local conditions prior to the tests.
I might have the timelines wrong but recall a sympathetic Sneddon explaining some such in an interview one day. Not really sticking up for Dr Vaughan (MD apparently) but I'm not sure that his freedom to govern or dickhead factor was as clear cut as Buchanan's definitely was🙂
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Very sharp work from Foakes to stump Rohit. Blazing fast glovework.
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@delicatessen said in World Test Championship:
Very sharp work from Foakes to stump Rohit. Blazing fast glovework.
Aaand more of the same to dismiss Pant.
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@delicatessen he is a very good keeper
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@Stockcar86 Note to the Lords groundskeeper.
Something green and seaming will probably suit us quite nicely!
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@Chris-B said in World Test Championship:
@Stockcar86 Note to the Lords groundskeeper.
Something green and seaming will probably suit us quite nicely!
We just need something with a bit of bounce - Kyle and Wags can work them over - yes I like having a four pronged pace attack - we may not be express but we get the job done - oh and can we keep Gary Stead away from the team selection as well
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