Best Test XI - POLL - Batsmen
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@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life yeah different roles, but I reckon if you can bat high in the order then you can bat lower down. Not necessarily the other way around. It's not like you are coming in at exactly the same time and circumstances each innings. Except for openers, but I always found them a bit weird. Like accountants.
We’re gonna have to bend the rules. Taylor and Crowe both walk in but either one of them bats five or we pick Fleming, Astle, McMillan or Coney.
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life yeah different roles, but I reckon if you can bat high in the order then you can bat lower down. Not necessarily the other way around. It's not like you are coming in at exactly the same time and circumstances each innings. Except for openers, but I always found them a bit weird. Like accountants.
We’re gonna have to bend the rules. Taylor and Crowe both walk in but either one of them bats five or we pick Fleming, Astle, McMillan or Coney.
Now my head is going to explode. We are bending some rules but not others, but we won't know which rules are allowed to be bent until we try to bend one. Then it's wait to see if we get shot down for bending the rules.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life yeah different roles, but I reckon if you can bat high in the order then you can bat lower down. Not necessarily the other way around. It's not like you are coming in at exactly the same time and circumstances each innings. Except for openers, but I always found them a bit weird. Like accountants.
We’re gonna have to bend the rules. Taylor and Crowe both walk in but either one of them bats five or we pick Fleming, Astle, McMillan or Coney.
Now my head is going to explode. We are bending some rules but not others, but we won't know which rules are allowed to be bent until we try to bend one. Then it's wait to see if we get shot down for bending the rules.
That’s my point. Crowe and Taylor both batted at four for the vast majority of their careers. So by default one has to bat five in this team cos fuck NOT picking one of them for another of the other guys mentioned....
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@Crazy-Horse bend the rules all you want, but there is no amount of bending that gets Fleming in the side.
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@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
We’re gonna have to bend the rules. Taylor and Crowe both walk in but either one of them bats five or we pick Fleming, Astle, McMillan or Coney.
I shouldn't have said "specialist" positions in that (other than openers) they are batsmen and can play anywhere in the order. Taylor and Crowe both get in.
I thought that we had - openers, batsmen, keeper, bowlers. The best in those categories. Not keeper / batsmen, etc.
This is like rugby - the rules seem to be open to "interpretation". The ref @Gunner might need to intervene before a fight breaks out.
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
He walks in and you know it.
I’m fucked off at Brian Lara for getting dismissed for fuck all as a mate and I were driving to the Basin specifically to watch him bat but that doesn’t mean he’s not a legend.
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
He walks in and you know it.
I’m fucked off at Brian Lara for getting dismissed for fuck all as a mate and I were driving to the Basin specifically to watch him bat but that doesn’t mean he’s not a legend.
i know he walks in.
but i have seared in to my memory him walking off far too many times in white looking dejectedly at the bottom of his bat as he holes out to deep midwicket AGAIN
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life yeah different roles, but I reckon if you can bat high in the order then you can bat lower down. Not necessarily the other way around. It's not like you are coming in at exactly the same time and circumstances each innings. Except for openers, but I always found them a bit weird. Like accountants.
We’re gonna have to bend the rules. Taylor and Crowe both walk in but either one of them bats five or we pick Fleming, Astle, McMillan or Coney.
Now my head is going to explode. We are bending some rules but not others, but we won't know which rules are allowed to be bent until we try to bend one. Then it's wait to see if we get shot down for bending the rules.
That’s my point. Crowe and Taylor both batted at four for the vast majority of their careers. So by default one has to bat five in this team cos fuck NOT picking one of them for another of the other guys mentioned....
Both Marty and Rossco have very ordinary records batting at 5.
BMac however is exceptional there!
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
I feel the same way about John Parker.
In fact, fuck him!
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@Chris-B said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life yeah different roles, but I reckon if you can bat high in the order then you can bat lower down. Not necessarily the other way around. It's not like you are coming in at exactly the same time and circumstances each innings. Except for openers, but I always found them a bit weird. Like accountants.
We’re gonna have to bend the rules. Taylor and Crowe both walk in but either one of them bats five or we pick Fleming, Astle, McMillan or Coney.
Now my head is going to explode. We are bending some rules but not others, but we won't know which rules are allowed to be bent until we try to bend one. Then it's wait to see if we get shot down for bending the rules.
That’s my point. Crowe and Taylor both batted at four for the vast majority of their careers. So by default one has to bat five in this team cos fuck NOT picking one of them for another of the other guys mentioned....
Both Marty and Rossco have very ordinary records batting at 5.
BMac however is exceptional there!
done!
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
He walks in and you know it.
I’m fucked off at Brian Lara for getting dismissed for fuck all as a mate and I were driving to the Basin specifically to watch him bat but that doesn’t mean he’s not a legend.
i know he walks in.
but i have seared in to my memory him walking off far too many times in white looking dejectedly at the bottom of his bat as he holes out to deep midwicket AGAIN
I get annoyed at his tongue hanging out, the occasional ugly slog sweep and his sometimes utterly horrific running between the wickets.
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@Chris-B said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
And that Cape Town test post Tangiwai with the bandaged head.
That was Bert Sutcliffe.
Aah.
Well how about him too?
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
He walks in and you know it.
I’m fucked off at Brian Lara for getting dismissed for fuck all as a mate and I were driving to the Basin specifically to watch him bat but that doesn’t mean he’s not a legend.
i know he walks in.
but i have seared in to my memory him walking off far too many times in white looking dejectedly at the bottom of his bat as he holes out to deep midwicket AGAIN
That's some pretty old memories. He reinvented himself as a test player and put the slog shots away completely. His T20 career suffered as a result but he became insanely consistent in ODIs and tests which is why he has 40 tons across those two formats now.
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@No-Quarter said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
He walks in and you know it.
I’m fucked off at Brian Lara for getting dismissed for fuck all as a mate and I were driving to the Basin specifically to watch him bat but that doesn’t mean he’s not a legend.
i know he walks in.
but i have seared in to my memory him walking off far too many times in white looking dejectedly at the bottom of his bat as he holes out to deep midwicket AGAIN
That's some pretty old memories. He reinvented himself as a test player and put the slog shots away completely. His T20 career suffered as a result but he became insanely consistent in ODIs and tests which is why he has 40 tons across those two formats now.
His ODI stats are even better than his test stats.
He is gonna leave a massive hole when he goes.
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@Snowy sheesh, it seems I shouldn’t have gone off grid playing golf today. All hell has broken loose.
Apart from the openers, the 4 batters are our 4 best batters, regardless of where they batted in the batting order. They’ll all be so good they can slot in anywhere in the top 6.
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
John R Reid anyone? Before my time but his reputation put him up there with the best when we were mud.
And that Cape Town test post Tangiwai with the bandaged head.
Bowled a bit too.
No
Illuminating post.
Now that we've established I got my 50s era batsmen muxed ip do you want to elaborate on why John R Reid is so definitely rejected?
