Best Test XI - POLL - Batsmen
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
I feel the same way about John Parker.
In fact, fuck him!
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@Chris-B said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Crazy-Horse said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life yeah different roles, but I reckon if you can bat high in the order then you can bat lower down. Not necessarily the other way around. It's not like you are coming in at exactly the same time and circumstances each innings. Except for openers, but I always found them a bit weird. Like accountants.
We’re gonna have to bend the rules. Taylor and Crowe both walk in but either one of them bats five or we pick Fleming, Astle, McMillan or Coney.
Now my head is going to explode. We are bending some rules but not others, but we won't know which rules are allowed to be bent until we try to bend one. Then it's wait to see if we get shot down for bending the rules.
That’s my point. Crowe and Taylor both batted at four for the vast majority of their careers. So by default one has to bat five in this team cos fuck NOT picking one of them for another of the other guys mentioned....
Both Marty and Rossco have very ordinary records batting at 5.
BMac however is exceptional there!
done!
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
He walks in and you know it.
I’m fucked off at Brian Lara for getting dismissed for fuck all as a mate and I were driving to the Basin specifically to watch him bat but that doesn’t mean he’s not a legend.
i know he walks in.
but i have seared in to my memory him walking off far too many times in white looking dejectedly at the bottom of his bat as he holes out to deep midwicket AGAIN
I get annoyed at his tongue hanging out, the occasional ugly slog sweep and his sometimes utterly horrific running between the wickets.
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@Chris-B said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
And that Cape Town test post Tangiwai with the bandaged head.
That was Bert Sutcliffe.
Aah.
Well how about him too?
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
He walks in and you know it.
I’m fucked off at Brian Lara for getting dismissed for fuck all as a mate and I were driving to the Basin specifically to watch him bat but that doesn’t mean he’s not a legend.
i know he walks in.
but i have seared in to my memory him walking off far too many times in white looking dejectedly at the bottom of his bat as he holes out to deep midwicket AGAIN
That's some pretty old memories. He reinvented himself as a test player and put the slog shots away completely. His T20 career suffered as a result but he became insanely consistent in ODIs and tests which is why he has 40 tons across those two formats now.
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@No-Quarter said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 i so dearly want to not pick Taylor for all the times he has disappointed me over the years.
He walks in and you know it.
I’m fucked off at Brian Lara for getting dismissed for fuck all as a mate and I were driving to the Basin specifically to watch him bat but that doesn’t mean he’s not a legend.
i know he walks in.
but i have seared in to my memory him walking off far too many times in white looking dejectedly at the bottom of his bat as he holes out to deep midwicket AGAIN
That's some pretty old memories. He reinvented himself as a test player and put the slog shots away completely. His T20 career suffered as a result but he became insanely consistent in ODIs and tests which is why he has 40 tons across those two formats now.
His ODI stats are even better than his test stats.
He is gonna leave a massive hole when he goes.
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@Snowy sheesh, it seems I shouldn’t have gone off grid playing golf today. All hell has broken loose.
Apart from the openers, the 4 batters are our 4 best batters, regardless of where they batted in the batting order. They’ll all be so good they can slot in anywhere in the top 6.
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
John R Reid anyone? Before my time but his reputation put him up there with the best when we were mud.
And that Cape Town test post Tangiwai with the bandaged head.
Bowled a bit too.
No
Illuminating post.
Now that we've established I got my 50s era batsmen muxed ip do you want to elaborate on why John R Reid is so definitely rejected?
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@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
John R Reid anyone? Before my time but his reputation put him up there with the best when we were mud.
And that Cape Town test post Tangiwai with the bandaged head.
Bowled a bit too.
No
Illuminating post.
Now that we've established I got my 50s era batsmen muxed ip do you want to elaborate on why John R Reid is so definitely rejected?
Initials aren't CC
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@Godder said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
JF Reid - number 3 with a good average in the 80s.
AH Jones - also a number 3 with a good average in the 80s.
Generally best results aginst the Asian teams and spin. Not so good against pace (except for that 1985 test in Brissy in conjunction with MDC's 188).
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@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
John R Reid anyone? Before my time but his reputation put him up there with the best when we were mud.
And that Cape Town test post Tangiwai with the bandaged head.
Bowled a bit too.
No
Illuminating post.
Now that we've established I got my 50s era batsmen muxed ip do you want to elaborate on why John R Reid is so definitely rejected?
Initials aren't CC
Correct. To elaborate further their batting stats are pretty similar but one of them took an absolute shitload more wickets at a better average.
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@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@mariner4life said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@MN5 said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
John R Reid anyone? Before my time but his reputation put him up there with the best when we were mud.
And that Cape Town test post Tangiwai with the bandaged head.
Bowled a bit too.
No
Illuminating post.
Now that we've established I got my 50s era batsmen muxed ip do you want to elaborate on why John R Reid is so definitely rejected?
Initials aren't CC
Correct. To elaborate further their batting stats are pretty similar but one of them took an absolute shitload more wickets at a better average.
Thought this was the batsman's thread
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@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
John R Reid anyone?
One of the best players of his era and one of our greatest, but not too sure he'd keep the likes of Crowe, Kane etc out of the best Test XI however.
Would be one of my first names in any limited over best XI, though - even if he was just before limited over cricket arrived.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@booboo said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
John R Reid anyone?
One of the best players of his era and one of our greatest, but not too sure he'd keep the likes of Crowe, Kane etc out of the best Test XI however.
> Would be one of my first names in any limited over best XI, though - even if he was just before limited over cricket arrived.
This all makes perfect and logical sense
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@Gunner said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
@Snowy sheesh, it seems I shouldn’t have gone off grid playing golf today. All hell has broken loose.
You're like Wayne Barnes, just go missing for large parts of the match and let the players do whatever they like.
It seems that I did have the rules basically correct though.
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This all makes perfect and logical sense
Generally accepted that his style of play would have made him a star in the shorter formats.
In some ways he was a cricketer before his time. ODI and T20 cricket would have been his forte: an attacking batsmen also capable of playing long, retrenching innings; an attacking bowler with many variations, getting through his overs quickly, always in the batsman’s face; an astute and forthright captain; a superb fielder, ready to take the gloves if the keeper was injured. He’d have loved the IPL, and the crowds would have loved him.
John Reid: A player ahead of his time & the backbone of New Zealand cricket
John Richard Reid, who died against 92 on Wednesday, was a crucial figure in establishing New Zealand as a cricketing force. Rod Edmond pays tribute to a player ahead of his time, and looks back at a career that traversed many roles in cricket.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Best Test XI - NOMINATIONS - Batsmen:
This all makes perfect and logical sense
Generally accepted that his style of play would have made him a star in the shorter formats.
In some ways he was a cricketer before his time. ODI and T20 cricket would have been his forte: an attacking batsmen also capable of playing long, retrenching innings; an attacking bowler with many variations, getting through his overs quickly, always in the batsman’s face; an astute and forthright captain; a superb fielder, ready to take the gloves if the keeper was injured. He’d have loved the IPL, and the crowds would have loved him.
John Reid: A player ahead of his time & the backbone of New Zealand cricket
John Richard Reid, who died against 92 on Wednesday, was a crucial figure in establishing New Zealand as a cricketing force. Rod Edmond pays tribute to a player ahead of his time, and looks back at a career that traversed many roles in cricket.
I'm certainly not doubting any of what is being said but you'd be pretty brave to pick him ahead of any of our recent stars.
