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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300249874/super-rugby-crusaders-move-david-havili-to-less-preferred-midfield-position
    Doesn't like midfield for Crusaders, not his preferred position.
    I didn't say he would not play there if chosen for the ABs.

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    @stargazer said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @dan54 said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    When has Havili said he doesn't want to be at 12 for ABs? I think he obvious choice along with Laumape at moment, because sure as hell we will need at least 2 for this year alone.

    After the preseason game of three halves, in which he got a head knock only a few minutes into the game and was taken off the field, he made a frustrated comment to Israel Dagg after the game that he didn't want to play twelve. At least, that's what Izzy mentioned on tv afterwards and that comment started to live a life of its own, with people assuming he really doesn't want to play at 12.

    In interviews, however, he has said that while he prefers playing at fullback and had to learn a few things and adapt his game (particularly defence) while playing at 12, he's starting to feel really comfortable in the 12 jersey (and enjoying it). And watching him play at 12 every week, it's clear he's the form 12 in NZ at the moment. And - according to Razor - becoming very Crotty-esque in his skillset (communication, distribution, supporting his 10).

    Post-2015, the Crotty-ALB combo was our best midfield. Unfortunately, for various reasons (Crotty's injuries, selection of SBW), that combo was rarely seen after 2016. I'd like to see a Havili-ALB combo in 2021, and if it works well, I want them to stick with it. I'm pretty sure Havili will be very keen.

    Good to know.

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    @nostrildamus said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @dan54
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300249874/super-rugby-crusaders-move-david-havili-to-less-preferred-midfield-position
    Doesn't like midfield for Crusaders, not his preferred position.
    I didn't say he would not play there if chosen for the ABs.

    Yep mate, I had read that, but not one to really believe what papers say, but I not arguing if someone heard him say it as it seems he has on TV.

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    @dan54 well Stargazer says it is old news so maybe it does not apply any more-plus the ABs seem to have enough fullbacks..

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    @dan54 I have always wondered how one comment that was clearly made in frustration after a head knock - and we only know Dagg's version of that comment - has been turned into "he doesn't want to play there". He isn't the first player to not play at their preferred position, nor will he be the last. Typical Fern, I guess. 😂

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    Preferred positions are overrated. I'll always remember Jeff Wilson preferring to play fullback. He was a much better right wing.

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    @kiwimurph said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    Preferred positions are overrated. I'll always remember Jeff Wilson preferring to play fullback. He was a much better right wing.

    Invest in a DeLorean and go and tell John Hart that

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    @mn5 said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @kiwimurph said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    Preferred positions are overrated. I'll always remember Jeff Wilson preferring to play fullback. He was a much better right wing.

    Invest in a DeLorean and go and tell John Hart that

    And stop by to tell John Mitchell the same thing on your way back

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    @stargazer said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    @dan54 I have always wondered how one comment that was clearly made in frustration after a head knock - and we only know Dagg's version of that comment - has been turned into "he doesn't want to play there". He isn't the first player to not play at their preferred position, nor will he be the last. Typical Fern, I guess. 😂

    um his coach said it too. Oh, Scott is a Ferner? That explains a lot..

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    @kiwimurph said in What’s out there at Second Five?:

    Preferred positions are overrated. I'll always remember Jeff Wilson preferring to play fullback. He was a much better right wing.

    He essentially said as much himself on the breakdown discussing Havili’s preference for fullback.

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