NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020
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@Stargazer I'd argue Smith was a better 9 than Murray for a longer period, also Pocock at 6? Shoehorning Fozzie styles?
Kaino.
A few you could make arguments for other players, but not too much issue with it.
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@Stargazer said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
World Rugby Awards
World Rugby Men’s 15s Team of the Decade
Parisse because you're meant to. Nup.
Murray over Smith?
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@booboo Yeah, I'd probably name Duane Vermeulen at no. 8. And, obviously, Smith at 9.
There are people protesting on social media that they left out Issy Folouwwwww at fullback for "political" reasons. Don't think he was better than Ben Smith at his prime though.
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Parisse is a fucking joke
O'Driscoll was done by the early part of the decade (couldn't even make the Lions test side in 2013 remember). What did North do for the last 6 or so years?
But Pocock at 6 is the biggest fuck up of them all
Who picks these fucking things?
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@mariner4life surprised a NH pundit didnt put Itoje in there!
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@mariner4life Probably Fitzy.
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@mariner4life blind freddy?
Seriously, though, Connor Murray was a quality 9 for a few years. But a better player than A Smith over the decade? I don't think so.
Connor started a year before Aaron, but Smith's been the standout 9 internaitonally for me in the decade, and for most years. even when he slumped, he was in the top few.
It's ... interesting selections
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@booboo said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
@Stargazer said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
World Rugby Awards
World Rugby Men’s 15s Team of the Decade
Parisse because you're meant to. Nup.
Murray over Smith?
Womble at 6?the real crime was I wasn't even nominated!
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@Stargazer said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
World Rugby Awards
World Rugby Men’s 15s Team of the Decade
North at 14 feels like a push, I don't know if Jonny May plays at 14, but he'd be another option here who has been good and dangerous for years on end. I can also see the argument for having Folau at 15 and Smith at 14 too.
O'Driscoll at 13 is silly - he was basically gone in the early part of the decade. If they are picking the best players to have played in the decade, then perhaps, but his best work wasn't this decade. No way. If it isn't Smith here, then Jean de Villiers or Wesley Fofana would be better picks.
Although I think Smith was the best halfback of the decade, I can just live with Murray, given that he was a huge part of the success of Ireland and the Lions.
Number 8 is a joke - this has to be Vermeulen.
At 6, how it can't be Kaino, Dusatoir, or even Steph du Toit is completely beyond me.
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@Stargazer How does the winner of the women's 15s player of the decade not make their team of the decade?
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@Dice said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
Is Kieran Read not liked on here anymore?
Surprised no one has mentioned him for the 8 spot.
if we are honest, one team dominated the ver loving fuck out of the decade, and it would not be a big call to just stick 15 ABs in there.
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@mariner4life said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
@Dice said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
Is Kieran Read not liked on here anymore?
Surprised no one has mentioned him for the 8 spot.
if we are honest, one team dominated the ver loving fuck out of the decade, and it would not be a big call to just stick 15 ABs in there.
Two time RWC winner and 2013 POTY and most people here wouldn’t have him as their first choice. Quite astounding.
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@Kiwiwomble said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
@Dice I don't know if i'll get roasted, he was great and deserved his AB spot...but I really felt he was only "best in the world" for a couple of years
All due respect to Vermuelen, who is an amazing player, but when was he ever in the conversation as the best in the world other than on 2019?
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@junior said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
@mariner4life said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
@Dice said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2020:
Is Kieran Read not liked on here anymore?
Surprised no one has mentioned him for the 8 spot.
if we are honest, one team dominated the ver loving fuck out of the decade, and it would not be a big call to just stick 15 ABs in there.
Two time RWC winner and 2013 POTY and most people here wouldn’t have him as their first choice. Quite astounding.
POTY is nice, but they gave it to Dusatoir over Jerome in 2011. Flabbers were gasted, but we had the Monkey Off The Back, so it slid.
Read was sensational for a long time, but the last few years still feel a bit raw. Wild eyes, etc. None of the highlights reels, but still broke a few people in half from time to time. Seriously good player.
But Vermeulen was next level.
I had more issues with Fall Over Owen, and Coulda Doid, and most of all Smith.
