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I am amazed and horrified about our seeming lack of choice in potential leaders. And yes, if something doesn't change in this regard soon we are fucked.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
I am amazed and horrified about our seeming lack of choice in potential leaders. And yes, if something doesn't change in this regard soon we are fucked.
I'm increasingly finding myself talking about Rishi Starmer & Kier Sunak these days
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
I am amazed and horrified about our seeming lack of choice in potential leaders. And yes, if something doesn't change in this regard soon we are fucked.
How do you think Liz Truss got in ...
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
I am amazed and horrified about our seeming lack of choice in potential leaders. And yes, if something doesn't change in this regard soon we are fucked.
How do you think Liz Truss got in ...
The list of other choices over the last 7 years is telling:-
May
Corbyn
Johnson
Truss
Sunak and Starmer waiting in the wings.IMO you can add Cameron to that list of political pygmies too.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
I am amazed and horrified about our seeming lack of choice in potential leaders. And yes, if something doesn't change in this regard soon we are fucked.
How do you think Liz Truss got in ...
The list of other choices over the last 7 years is telling:-
May
Corbyn
Johnson
Truss
Sunak and Starmer waiting in the wings.IMO you can add Cameron to that list of political pygmies too.
Thought Cameron was OK. May was trapped by circumstances of her own making as she took on a golden cup and turned it into a poisoned chalice. BoJo and Truss at least had a vision to grow the country and direct investment to grow poorer regions of the country to do that.
For me, the worrying thing is how vested interests, wealthier sections of the community and the Civil Service seem to have the ability to stop that sort of growth and change stuff happening. Not averse to a little subversion (subtle or otherwise) either, it seems.
Fuck, I'm turning into a revolutionary.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
I am amazed and horrified about our seeming lack of choice in potential leaders. And yes, if something doesn't change in this regard soon we are fucked.
How do you think Liz Truss got in ...
The list of other choices over the last 7 years is telling:-
May
Corbyn
Johnson
Truss
Sunak and Starmer waiting in the wings.IMO you can add Cameron to that list of political pygmies too.
Thought Cameron was OK. May was trapped by circumstances of her own making as she took on a golden cup and turned it into a poisoned chalice. BoJo and Truss at least had a vision to grow the country and direct investment to grow poorer regions of the country to do that.
For me, the worrying thing is how vested interests, wealthier sections of the community and the Civil Service seem to have the ability to stop that sort of growth and change stuff happening. Not averse to a little subversion (subtle or otherwise) either, it seems.
Fuck, I'm turning into a revolutionary.
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Cameron was a lightweight IMO. Had the outcome that he wanted but still gave a referendum = Idiot. Then neglected to take it seriously and campaign to any degree = double idiot. And yeah I know he pledged a referendum but these polls pledge a lot of things and even then the timing and handling of it all was down to him.
Bo-Jo... Hmm. Not sure what he did to promote growth that was concrete. Oversaw an ever increasing tax burden. Was in thrall to the treasury and the mantra to balance the books in the shortest time possible while at the same time giving hand outs left right and centre.
Truss had a vision but fuck all application. You know she actually admitted to not knowing what a liability driven investment was.
Looks like I'll be
doingjoining (sorry @Bones ) you on the barricades comrade. Anyone for vodka? -
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Well, at least Truss & BoJo tried to see the problem and move forward. The others just seem to want to manage decay better than the other bloke.
You know she actually admitted to not knowing what a liability driven investment was.
TBF, neither did the Bank of England..
PS: We've all missed out Blair and Brown on the list.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Looks like I'll be doing you on the barricades
It was just a matter of time
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@Bones said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Looks like I'll be doing you on the barricades
It was just a matter of time
Aaagh! Outed!
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
Looks like I'll be
doingjoining (sorry @Bones ) you on the barricades comrade. Anyone for vodka?Well, that's left @bones feeling let down then.
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BBC's Lineker taken off the air for his political tweets. Much frothing and foaming at the mouth results. High Hyperbole levels expected.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
BBC's Lineker taken off the air for his political tweets. Much frothing and foaming at the mouth results. High Hyperbole levels expected.
Actually, the headline is
“UK economy grows in Jan, beating all expectations”
Isn’t it?
This fucking country.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
This fucking country.
We seem to be fucked at all levels
I help manage the village hall/community centre/community pub. It's a large building which needs a high fire safety standard. Just had our Risk Assessment. We also host a local Ladybirds/Kindergarten and had our Safeguarding check the day after.
The Fire Regs say we must have the fire-doors unlocked when the buildings are occupied. The Safeguarding report told us the doors must be locked if there's anyone under 12 in the building...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
This fucking country.
We seem to be fucked at all levels
I help manage the village hall/community centre/community pub. It's a large building which needs a high fire safety standard. Just had our Risk Assessment. We also host a local Ladybirds/Kindergarten and had our Safeguarding check the day after.
The Fire Regs say we must have the fire-doors unlocked when the buildings are occupied. The Safeguarding report told us the doors must be locked if there's anyone under 12 in the building...
It's like your own version of Clarkson's farm.
It's quite obvious why so many people no longer have any respect of bureaucracy and the law.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
This fucking country.
We seem to be fucked at all levels
I help manage the village hall/community centre/community pub. It's a large building which needs a high fire safety standard. Just had our Risk Assessment. We also host a local Ladybirds/Kindergarten and had our Safeguarding check the day after.
The Fire Regs say we must have the fire-doors unlocked when the buildings are occupied. The Safeguarding report told us the doors must be locked if there's anyone under 12 in the building...
It's like your own version of Clarkson's farm.
It's quite obvious why so many people no longer have any respect of bureaucracy and the law.
Sad bit is the rules themselves are pretty sensible and you do the reviews yourself using well-thought-thru checklists. The problem is no-one looks at the overall picture.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
BBC's Lineker taken off the air for his political tweets. Much frothing and foaming at the mouth results. High Hyperbole levels expected.
Linker reinstated after agreeing a path forwards with BBC.
Oddly, the left, the right, the centre ... all seems to be claiming this as some sort of victory.
Which shows how ludicrous the whole thing was in the first place.
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@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
I'm always intrigued how this sort of exposé only ever seems to focus on one side of the political divide. Seems the likes of Starmer, Lammy and Jess Philips get a free pass - which in the interests of accountability isn't good.
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@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:
Is anything illegal here?
Truth is that UK politicians are woefully underpaid and in theory as long as they are consulting for the good of the UK, then what is the issue?
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