Auckland v Northland
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@kev was an accidental off side at the lineout that lead to that ruck when an Auckland player ran into his own one too...very poor passage by the officials, but by the same token, it shouldnt have been that close for a poor decision to take the game away
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@taniwharugby no time to be reasonable. Straight forward decision. We should have been all over that with ref. Wonder if we need to have a Captains Challenge because frankly that is just piss poor.
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Just got to my phone now.
Watched this on delay without knowing the result. Ffs, don't know how we win that. So stoked, hopefully a great start for a win to the all blacks 👍
Very gutsy win. Tough to come back and win down to 14, and random injuries cost us. I'll take it, really stoked for the boys right now
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@Dice said in Auckland v Northland:
The more I think about the rule that had us a man down, the more I realize just how dumb it is.
not intended for Auckland like this, but intended to stop cynical teams throwing up injuries for non-contested scrums.
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@nzzp said in Auckland v Northland:
not intended for Auckland like this, but intended to stop cynical teams throwing up injuries for non-contested scrums.
Normally it would happen later in a game. That was a long time with 14. Maybe after 20mins it should go back to 15?
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I didn't think the ref was that bad. Some of the calls on knock ons and obstruction were a bit questionable but he was consistent both ways. We had it way worse last week against NH when the ref basically sleep walked through the game.
Some of the mistakes we made today were so basic - handling errors, poor kick options etc Luckily Leilua wasn't playing otherwise it could've been worse...
I think the coaches need to hold their hands up for some of the issues in this game. As mentioned, some of the substitutes were brainless and appeared to be made for the sake of it.
I liked the aggression that Jacobson bought but I think given they were down to 14 it was a game that would've suited Pryor more if he has been fit. Although our losses did well, I think our first choice looses may have tipped the game our way.
Will he interesting to see who is back from injury for the next game
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@nzzp said in Auckland v Northland:
@Dice said in Auckland v Northland:
The more I think about the rule that had us a man down, the more I realize just how dumb it is.
not intended for Auckland like this, but intended to stop cynical teams throwing up injuries for non-contested scrums.
Do you have to play with a man down when two looseheads or two tightheads in your team get injured and you go to non-contested scrums?
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@Chiefy07 think Pryor was just being rested this week, similarly Matich.
Robinson and Ross were both out due to injury.
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@taniwharugby said in Auckland v Northland:
@Chiefy07 think Pryor was just being rested this week, similarly Matich.
Sickening arrogance from your lot
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@Dice said in Auckland v Northland:
@nzzp said in Auckland v Northland:
@Dice said in Auckland v Northland:
The more I think about the rule that had us a man down, the more I realize just how dumb it is.
not intended for Auckland like this, but intended to stop cynical teams throwing up injuries for non-contested scrums.
Do you have to play with a man down when two looseheads or two tightheads in your team get injured and you go to non-contested scrums?
Yep, that's the rule.
Whether it's good or not is another story, but the law is the law
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@Chiefy07 at the game the not straight in the lineout was very evident on nearly all of the short throws. Some got called, but two lineouts that led to tries were not.Given this a important set piece that Auckland clearly were struggling with I think it was disappointing. The obstruction was significant in that it lead to a try and was very obvious. So in those two areas the officiating was sub standard.
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@nzzp Sweet. Was just wondering, because I've seen that happen, but can't remember a man having to go off because of it.
Although faking a hooker injury just to get non-contested scrums would be a bit risky and would usually have little payoff, because you'd have a really crappy lineout for the rest of the game. I can kind of understand the rule being applied for props, but not sure it should apply for hookers.
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@Chiefy07 yeah I think the coaches need to take alot of the heat.
It seems they have a decent culture, but not sure everyone is singing form the same song sheet.
I mean Ranger is a prime example, IMO, this is his worst season for us, his decision making has been terrible!
So why is he doing this? Has he been given free reign from the coaches to play it as he sees it, or does he not like the plan they have? He has made the same errors so many times this year with making breaks and ignoring players outside, as I mentioned a few weeks ago, I think his brain is still seeing things as he used to but his body is struggling to keep up.
We havent played smart all season, and today was a prime opportunity to play smart and kick Auckland around the park, more so they were down to 14 and had no hooker.
Think losing Cooper (if he wasnt just subbed??) was a big blow, Faiane showed glimpses, but is a running 10, which wasnt what we needed today.
Our handling , lack of cohesion (balls being passed behind/above/below) and critical decision has been poor too, this comes back to the coaches.
I mean that last 5 mins there were 4 very poor decisions made: GRant 2 x kicks, Faiane kick and whoever was acting captain deciding to go for the corner instead of a scrum for that final play.
Our props all look overweight, despite this team seeming to be able to go 80 minutes each week whereas in prior years we'd fall off with 15-20 to go.
Despite all the gnashing and wailing, I think we did show some life today (and a bit last week) that we have lacked for the prior 4 games...
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@taniwharugby good point about Jonny. He didn’t seem to be injured so suspect he was pulled. But why? why ? why ? He attacked the line a couple of times yesterday which is exactly what I want from our 1st five. Apart from one kick for a lineout though he kicked really well - and off both feet. FFS I have lost confidence in our Coaches. Don’t know what they are doing. If Hawkins returns for the final game we will have our answer. This is not the way to develop a team.
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@taniwharugby and agree 100% with what you have said. The lack of development mid-season is evident, but yesterday the energy was better.
