Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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@akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@voodoo Really like that team. Only question mark I have is Jordie on the wing. Is he fast enough to be on the wing? Not sure. Would probably stick with Reece for the first couple of tests and then give Jordan a go in some of the RC tests.
Yeah that's fair. Trade off between the height and size he offers and the express pace he lacks. Guess you could also have him interchange with his bro throughout too
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@voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@voodoo Really like that team. Only question mark I have is Jordie on the wing. Is he fast enough to be on the wing? Not sure. Would probably stick with Reece for the first couple of tests and then give Jordan a go in some of the RC tests.
Yeah that's fair. Trade off between the height and size he offers and the express pace he lacks. Guess you could also have him interchange with his bro throughout too
If JB is on the wing he is rather too close to the prospect of quick defensive throw-ins for my liking.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Please remember to title your 23s with what I would pick vs what I think will be picked, then we can argue about it accurately!
I have no idea what (I think) they will pick.
Hell, you can see I have no idea what I would pick ...
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@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them. -
@Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Biggest problem for me is that unless we start Cane and Savea, a combination I don't care for at all, we will have inexperienced players at six and eight.
Nightmare scenario is a starting lock forced off early with injury.
Frizell isn't a debutant. 9 tests over two years is OKish.
Cane, Frizell, Sotutu would be my preferred.
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them. -
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'd be picking him there because it would be the best team. But I'd prefer JG/Roane over Roane and any other wing.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
so imagine being Goodhue too then, as a 12 or 13? How is it any different?
The nature of professional sport, someone will miss out
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@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
so imagine being Goodhue too then, as a 12 or 13? How is it any different?
The nature of professional sport, someone will miss out
Not talking about selected for team. I am referring to selection in position.
Goodhue knows that he is in a rotational midfield where both he and ALB cover both spots.
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@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
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@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke
Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.
My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:
Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.
Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.
Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.
Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.
Upvote
Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.
We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.
Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.
Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.
