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Bovidae

Hunt probably beaten by a roid monster - no surprise there.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://espn.go.com/mma/story//id/17085742/brock-lesnar-ufc-notified-potential-anti-doping-violation'>http://espn.go.com/mma/story//id/17085742/brock-lesnar-ufc-notified-potential-anti-doping-violation</a>

MN5

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Hunt probably beaten by a roid monster - no surprise there.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://espn.go.com/mma/story//id/17085742/brock-lesnar-ufc-notified-potential-anti-doping-violation'>http://espn.go.com/mma/story//id/17085742/brock-lesnar-ufc-notified-potential-anti-doping-violation</a>
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None at all, he's ex WWE, about the only ones not on Roids were genuine giants like Andre, Big Show etc.
 
All those muscles are pointless if a bloke can't fight through and that's where Lesner surprised me the most, I thought Hunt would deal to him to be honest.

raznomore

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None at all, he's ex WWE, about the only ones not on Roids were genuine giants like Andre, Big Show etc. 
All those muscles are pointless if a bloke can't fight through and that's where Lesner surprised me the most, I thought Hunt would deal to him to be honest.</blockquote>Hes not ex mate. He was on loan. Which means he was still in the "program" and the UFC doesn't give a shit about this. 
He served his purpose. He was probably added when (tin hat comment coming) they thought Jon Jones could be on something to keep bums in seats and ppvs paid for. 
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MN5

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Hes not ex mate. He was on loan. Which means he was still in the "program" and the UFC doesn't give a shit about this. 
He served his purpose. He was probably added when (tin hat comment coming) they thought Jon Jones could be on something to keep bums in seats and ppvs paid for. 
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Ah ok, fair call, I don't follow either particularly closely so wasn't aware of this.
 
In any case it's a fair old effort when you consider WWE stars aren't really "sportsmen" as such ( I may risk opening a can of worms in saying that )
 
I always enjoyed reading this guys exploits, Raz surely Haku would have been a favourite of yours back in the day ? sounds like he could have been a UFC sensation.....( I'm not sure how true some of these stories are though )
 
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raznomore

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="596986" data-time="1468636376">Ah ok, fair call, I don't follow either particularly closely so wasn't aware of this. 
In any case it's a fair old effort when you consider WWE stars aren't really "sportsmen" as such ( I may risk opening a can of worms in saying that ) 
I always enjoyed reading this guys exploits, Raz surely Haku would have been a favourite of yours back in the day ? sounds like he could have been a UFC sensation.....( I'm not sure how true some of these stories are though ) <a class="bbc_url" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga_Fifita#Notoriety_and_incidents">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga_Fifita#Notoriety_and_incidents</a></blockquote>
I dont like tongans...... 
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MN5

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I dont like tongans...... 
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But would you tell him that ?

raznomore

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="596988" data-time="1468636955">But would you tell him that ?</blockquote>
I was just perpetuating a racial stereotype... 
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MN5

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I was just perpetuating a racial stereotype... 
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It's the fern. I expect nothing less.

raznomore

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MN5

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Word to this post brother....

taniwharugby

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Ah ok, fair call, I don't follow either particularly closely so wasn't aware of this.
 
In any case it's a fair old effort when you consider WWE stars aren't really "sportsmen" as such ( I may risk opening a can of worms in saying that )
 
I always enjoyed reading this guys exploits, Raz surely Haku would have been a favourite of yours back in the day ? sounds like he could have been a UFC sensation.....( I'm not sure how true some of these stories are though )
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga_Fifita#Notoriety_and_incidents'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga_Fifita#Notoriety_and_incidents</a>
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stuntmen!

Godder

Haku would have been amazing...

aucklandwarlord

I'm a bit of a Johnny-come-lately to the UFC, in that I never really watched it when I was living in NZ because I didn't think it was worth the PPV fees, but now its free to air in Asia I watch it a little bit. I'm a bit bemused by Hunt's reaction to Lesnar's failed drugs test. Would be interested to know the opinions of those who have watched it a while and what they think of the latest twist in the plot. 
 
For me, it was quite clear that Hunt knew, or at least very strongly suspected that Lesnar was doping when he agreed to the fight. From memory there were quite a number of references to it in the build up to the fight etc, but he still happily took the fight (and the reasonable sized pay packet). Now that he lost the fight, and Lesnar has been flagged as a 'roid user (surprise, surprise), it kind of smacks of sour grapes or opportunism on Hunt's behalf to come out and ask for a bigger share of the purse, or to be released from his contract. Surely if you strongly suspected or knew, you'd of the potential doping prior to the fight, that's when you'd kick up the stink about it and insist on pre-fight testing. 
 
I've watched a few Hunt fights, and used to follow him back in his K1 days, but to me it seems that he's now more of a prize-fighter type character who is good for entertaining fights and knockouts rather than a genuine title contender? With a record of 12 and 10 or whatever it is, surely he can't be that upset by the loss, which will in all likelihood be ruled a no-contest in the history books? 
 
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.foxsports.com.au/ufc/mark-hunts-furious-reaction-to-brock-lesnars-flagging-by-usada-ahead-of-ufc-200-fight/news-story/5415e4bab6edc2c16911501f1f9c139c'>http://www.foxsports.com.au/ufc/mark-hunts-furious-reaction-to-brock-lesnars-flagging-by-usada-ahead-of-ufc-200-fight/news-story/5415e4bab6edc2c16911501f1f9c139c</a>
 
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MARK Hunt has reacted furiously to <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.foxsports.com.au/ufc/brock-lesnar-flagged-for-potential-doping-violation-ahead-of-ufc-200-win-over-mark-hunt--usada/news-story/79997f6ab3edbfd8c2234c5e7059d933'>Brock Lesnarâ€™s USADA flagging for potential doping</a>, saying the â€œfing cheatâ€ should lose his $2.5 million purse and threatening to quit the UFC if promotion bosses donâ€™t take action.
Hunt, who lost a unanimous decision to Lesnar at UFC 200 in the former heavyweight championâ€™s first fight in the Octagon for five years, pulled no punches in an exclusive interview with FOX Sports News (listen above).
â€œI said (to the UFC), â€˜If you donâ€™t give me half his st [purse], Iâ€™m walking away from this company, I want out of here. This is rubbishâ€™,â€ Hunt said.
â€œYou [UFC] better do something. I already talked to the bosses. They better do something or I want out of here, I want a release from my contract. You guys are just making a mockery out of us, youâ€™re making a fool out of me, you make me look like an idiot.
â€œI lost on that night to some fing cheat. Thereâ€™s no way he could weigh 265 [pounds] like me - he was about 500 kilos, there was no f*ing way he was weighing in at my weight. It just makes a mockery of the whole sport, it makes a fool out of all of us, all the people whoâ€™ve paid money for top end fighting - now all theyâ€™ve got is a cheat against a guy who doesnâ€™t cheat.
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MN5

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Haku would have been amazing...
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Any bloke that can scare Andre the Giant must be tough.

mimic

Hunt suspected Lesnar of using, but they've all been doing tests.. and I guess he had nothing to stand on.. 
But now Lesnar has been flagged, he's furious.. 
He's fought against a few cheats now, and for them to rob u of your moment must give u the shits.. look at Valerie Adams.. 
Records don't mean much in UFC.. anything can happen.. 
2.5 mil guaranteed plus more from ppv.. and u get to cheat? Sets a pretty dangerous precedent

MN5

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Hunt suspected Lesnar of using, but they've all been doing tests.. and I guess he had nothing to stand on.. 
But now Lesnar has been flagged, he's furious.. 
He's fought against a few cheats now, and for them to rob u of your moment must give u the shits.. look at Valerie Adams.. 
Records don't mean much in UFC.. anything can happen.. 
2.5 mil guaranteed plus more from ppv.. and u get to cheat? Sets a pretty dangerous precedent
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It's an awkward one cos roids don't automatically make you a better fighter do they ?

mimic

if its roids, roids certainly help in terms or training and recovery.. it also helps you with keeping weight as well..
but im no roids expert.. just what i hear from some of the boys at the gym..

SammyC

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It's an awkward one cos roids don't automatically make you a better fighter do they ?</blockquote>
 
Of course they do, they make you bigger, stronger and more aggressive. All positive attributes for a fighter

Milk

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Of course they do, they make you bigger, stronger and more aggressive. All positive attributes for a fighter
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Particularly for Lesnar... that's pretty much his point of difference.
 
Although I think Hunt is digging himself a bit of a whole with this pay me or I walk angle, I can certainly understand his anger. They encouraged him to get in the ring with a roided up monster. And I don't use the term 'monster' loosely, Lesnar legitimately scares the shit out of me.

raznomore

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This was a massive drunk post! I got my hands on some Garage Project yesterday and went all out. 
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The Silver Fern

UFC / MMA