UFC / MMA

Unco

Cruz was stripped of the Bantamweight title in January and Barao's interim title was upgraded to the proper title. And the only reason why that belt won't be defended three times this year is because Dillashaw beat the crap out of Barao. Their rematch in August will be the third time it's been on the line this year though and I'm expecting to see a fourth later in the year.
 
While having more and more events may mean they're trying out way more fighters, it also means there's far less possibility of making a star. Why? Because there's less eyes watching most of those cards, so you can have a true star making performance like the one Matt Brown had against Eric Silva a few months ago and no-one comes out of it a star because it was stuck on Fight Pass, which only the super fans have.
 
But regardless, yeah that Irish card was fucking awesome.

scruffy-lookin

Totally right on the Bantamweight title being put up three times this year. I'll believe four when I see it. 
Matt Brown v Eric Silva was on Fox Sports rather than Fight Pass. I don't think they've had any US Fight Pass cards yet. Granted, Fox Sports doesn't have the reach of Fox or Spike but it's not behind an internet paywall.

Unco

Still plenty of time for a fourth fight after August, especially with so many champs out injured, though it could always slip into next year as well.
 
Ah shit, you're right, the use of the Fight Night name for both Fox Sports and Fight Pass cards confused me. It's definitely a bit better than the internet paywall but still limits the amount of eyes watching it, especially since no casual fan is ever going to bother watching every UFC card. It just makes creating stars an even harder job to do.

scruffy-lookin

With UFC 177 on 30 August a fourth Bantamweight title in 2014 would be a fairly quick turnaround for either Dillashaw or Barao. Especially when you consider that the opponent that makes the most sense regardless of who wins at UFC 177 is Dominic Cruz who would have to win his fight against Takeya Mizugaki at UFC 178 on September 27 and be in condition to fight again quickly which seems overly-optimistic given his recent history.
 
Youâ€™re right that the lack of available champions may encourage the UFC to try and schedule a fourth Bantamweight title bout in 2014 with the champ versus Assuncao or any available top ten fighter just to fill out one of the December cards. Assuncao is an interesting fight for Dillashaw and a decent fight Barao (in Brazil at least) but not one that is going to get casuals super-interested.
 
Which brings me back to the oversaturation, while casual fans (by definition) arenâ€™t going to watch every card I was under the impression that ratings for the Fox Sports Fight Night main events were higher than most PPVs or the PPV prelims. Iâ€™d have thought that fighting in the five-round main event on a smaller card would be a better way to get casual fans interested in contenders than having the same fight as a three-rounder on the main card of a PPV.
 
 
Gustaffson out and Cormier in to face Jon Jones at UFC 178 and they've also added McGregor v Poirier. The card is looking pretty stacked.
 
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Unco

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With UFC 177 on 30 August a fourth Bantamweight title in 2014 would be a fairly quick turnaround for either Dillashaw or Barao. Especially when you consider that the opponent that makes the most sense regardless of who wins at UFC 177 is Dominic Cruz who would have to win his fight against Takeya Mizugaki at UFC 178 on September 27 and be in condition to fight again quickly which seems overly-optimistic given his recent history.
 
Youâ€™re right that the lack of available champions may encourage the UFC to try and schedule a fourth Bantamweight title bout in 2014 with the champ versus Assuncao or any available top ten fighter just to fill out one of the December cards. Assuncao is an interesting fight for Dillashaw and a decent fight Barao (in Brazil at least) but not one that is going to get casuals super-interested.
 
Which brings me back to the oversaturation, while casual fans (by definition) arenâ€™t going to watch every card I was under the impression that ratings for the Fox Sports Fight Night main events were higher than most PPVs or the PPV prelims. Iâ€™d have thought that fighting in the five-round main event on a smaller card would be a better way to get casual fans interested in contenders than having the same fight as a three-rounder on the main card of a PPV.
 
 
Gustaffson out and Cormier in to face Jon Jones at UFC 178 and they've also added McGregor v Poirier. The card is looking pretty stacked.
 
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It's not that quick. Dillashaw vs Barao 1 was on May 24th, while Faber vs Barao was on Feb 1st. That's just under four months between Barao/Faber and Barao/Dillashaw 1 and just over 3 months between Barao/Dillashaw 1 and 2. With four months left in the year after UFC 177, I think there's a pretty decent chance they'll fit another one in there.
 
As for the next contender, I'd go with Assuncao, yeah. I don't think there's any Bantamweight fight, outside of Cruz, that'll really get the casuals interested, but I think Cruz is probably a few wins off being in range of a shot and it depends entirely on how well he comes back. Three years is a long time in sports.
 
Fox Sports Fight Night main events are higher than most current PPVs, but then that's not really an achievement these days. I'm just not sure how many of the people watching them are actually casual fans, since they're basically buying the Fox Sports channels specifically for UFC. There's a huge difference between those and the FOX cards (which typically get 2+ million viewers) or old Spike cards.
 
Cormier vs Jones is actually a disappointing replacement in my eyes. Cormier has a knee injury that he was scheduled to get surgery on but he's put it on hold for the fight. That was one of the main reasons why Jones wanted to fight Cormier instead of Gustaffson in the first place. It's going to hurt his wrestling and his chances in the fight.
 
McGregor vs Poirier should be great though.

MiketheSnow

Another solid card at Fight Night.
 
Lawler v Brown was a cracker.

scruffy-lookin

While it's not ideal that Cormier is taking the title shot on shaky knees it's an issue he's apparently had for a while and hasn't stopped him dominating all his opponents. At 35 I don't know whether there's time for Cormier to take 6-12 months off for surgery and then hope that the title picture works in his favour. Regardless, it's a fight I'm excited to see.
 
Hard to complain about oversaturation with the quality of the last three cards and the UFC taking a mini-break until mid-August.

Unco

A nice look at the real Jon Jones:
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://mmajunkie.com/2014/08/video-hot-mics-catch-daniel-cormier-and-jon-jones-and-a-death-threat'>http://mmajunkie.com/2014/08/video-hot-mics-catch-daniel-cormier-and-jon-jones-and-a-death-threat</a>
 
What a sociopath.

scruffy-lookin

Pretty over the top from Jones and Cormier. The fight at the media day was a bit of a black eye for the sport and these comments just further inflame things, even if the mics weren't supposed to be live. While it wouldn't surprise me if Jones (or any other elite athlete or high achiever) was a sociopath IMO, he's just trying to get under Cormier's skin. Two alphas who don't like each other and won't back down.
 
I think Jones will win in the Octagon but it remains to be seen who'll win the publicity war and whether it will result in more buys or end up turning people off.

raznomore

I dunno. Michael Jordan was a wholesome front man but a nutcase behind closed doors in the locker room. 
I am happy to talk like a church boy to my customers but I'll be swearing up a storm with fuckwit suppliers and I climb into a trade if he so much looks at me wrong. 
Cormier isn't exactly doing himself any favours either.

raznomore

It's not going to turn anyone off. Only people who weren't going to watch anyway.

scruffy-lookin

I agree that it's (probably) not going to turn off people for this fight that were potential buyers but might have an effect on the long-term prospects of the sport with things like getting the MMA licenced in New York and fighters being able to attract top-flight sponsors.
 
MMA always walks a line between sport and spectacle, martial art competition and brawling violence which is what makes it so compelling to some of us but also why it gets a fair bit of negative press (or no press at all).

MiketheSnow

Fight Night 51
 
Solid undercard.
 
And a great main event.
 
Excuse the music overdub.

Great to see Arlovski back.

scruffy-lookin

<div>Fight Night 51 was exactly the kind of card that certain fans and media mean when they talk about over-saturation. A main event with two fighters with name recognition but little divisional relevancy and an undercard stacked with local fighters. I'm not sure if it was better matchmaking or a coincidence but it was good to see Brazillians only go 5-4. I agree with Mike that it was a fun card even though it wouldn't have been considered "UFC Quality" a few years ago. </div>
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<div>Hunt v Nelson this weekend which has a similar look to the card but where it's a fair bit harder to find favourable matchups for the local fighter without obviously trying to get a result. Hopefully Hunt can finish Nelson and go on one last run towards the title. Nelson has had trouble with strikers who are willing to circle away from his overhand right and don't get backed up on the cage with his jab-feint-jab routine. </div>
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<div>Daniel Hooker, the kiwi who won his UFC debut at the Auckland event this year is the first fight on the card. Not sure if Sky will be showing that or whether it will be Fight Pass only.</div>

MiketheSnow

Fight Night 52
 
Tokyo delivered.
 
The Silverbacks delivered.

MiketheSnow

UFC 178
 
Cruz is back.
 
Zingano fight was as good as it gets.
 
Romero with a superb finish, after a controversial start to 3rd round.
 
McGregor on a roll.
 
Cowboy almost got bucked but came through strong.
 
Mighty Mouse too strong.
 
Excellent card.

MiketheSnow

UFC 180
 
Solid card top to bottom.
 
Def worth a watch.

raznomore

If only Hunt had a ground game. He had a monster take down but landed straight in Wurdum's guard so he had to stand up immediately to avoid a submission. But he knocked him. Over a couple of times and had he been confident enough he should have gone in for some nasty ground and pound to close it out. 
Not always as easy as that but it would have been interesting

Duluth

Jon Jones has been stripped of his title
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://espn.go.com/mma/story//id/12783425/jon-jones-stripped-light-heavyweight-title-suspended-ufc'>http://espn.go.com/mma/story//id/12783425/jon-jones-stripped-light-heavyweight-title-suspended-ufc</a>

Unco

Wow, I didn't think that would happen at all. UFC's even more carny than the WWE these days, so I thought they'd pretend it never happened like they have with a bunch of other incidents. Credit where it's due though, that's a smart move, Jones is a complete mess.
 
Cormier vs Rumble for the title now?
 
Edit: Yep, Cormier vs Rumble. Cormier was already scheduled to fight a couple weeks later, so at least he'll be decently prepared.
 
Edit #2: <img src="http://108.imagebam.com/download/9inrNU3oURUvTW-k4NbbnA/40658/406576124/lolol.gif" alt="lolol.gif">
 
Killed me.

The Silver Fern

UFC / MMA