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@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
MNF.
Damar Hamlin of the Bills collapses after a routine tackle. 9 minutes of CPR, then into an ambulance. It's terrifying - game postponed. Incredible scenes I have never seen before.
Amazing scenes alright.
On the competition side this has an impact on the division outcomes. Not that anyone is worried about that at the moment but it may make things complicated for the playoffs and the officials are going to have to make some big calls.
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@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
MNF.
Damar Hamlin of the Bills collapses after a routine tackle. 9 minutes of CPR, then into an ambulance. It's terrifying - game postponed. Incredible scenes I have never seen before.
Watching it live it didn’t seem like anything out of the ordinary other than getting hit flush in the chest. Damar was able to get up but then collapsed immediately after.
Took me back to Hank Gathers.
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Frankly, I'm really struggling to process this. It looks like a cardiac type injury - heart attack or similar - but goddamn.
Injuries are part of watching,a nd I was literally talking to my Bengals supporting mate about struggling to see big hits and watch teh sport ... and then this happens. The players looked devastated.
Crazy times.
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@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
The GoFundMe page Damar ran is about to tick over $1M of a $2500 goal.
Bills Mafia are awesome
That was for a Toy Drive for the local community.
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@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
MNF.
Damar Hamlin of the Bills collapses after a routine tackle. 9 minutes of CPR, then into an ambulance. It's terrifying - game postponed. Incredible scenes I have never seen before.
Sounds like another Christian Erikson situation
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Slight OT: how good are these college football playoff games. That TCU win over Michigan was huge. Emari Demercado was a beast.
Then Georgia hang on for a nail biter against Ohio State, who I wanted to go all the way.
That Tulane win over USC was big time too.
Would love TCU to get over the Bulldogs and cause a big upset.
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@ACT-Crusader said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
That TCU win over Michigan was huge
Jim Harbaugh comes up short in a championship game. Story of his coaching career.
Be interesting if he goes back to the NFL (rumour is Broncos are interested).
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@ACT-Crusader It would have been good to have an all Big 10 final.
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@broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php
Some speculation.
Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively
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@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php
Some speculation.
Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively
No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.
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@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php
Some speculation.
Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively
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@Crucial said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php
Some speculation.
Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively
No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.
Looked like helmet was there too. But I've seen much worse. He might have an undiagnosed condition like Christian Eriksen
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@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@Crucial said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php
Some speculation.
Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively
No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.
Looked like helmet was there too. But I've seen much worse. He might have an undiagnosed condition like Christian Eriksen
i saw an interesting hypothesis where there is a split second in the heartbeat cycle where the heart is actually quite exposed and in danger. If the hit was right at this minuscule point in time, and throw in a hit of adrenalin from the whiplash effect, and his heart rhythm gets proper fucked up. Hence why he got up, but then immediately collapsed.
scary shit man. the collision sports really are stupid
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@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@Crucial said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@broughie said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan https://www.houstonchronicle.com/lifestyle/renew-houston/article/damar-hamlin-heart-condition-rare-17692071.php
Some speculation.
Was it a helmet to chest hit? I am always puzzled by the NFL rationale that they need helmets for protection and yet so often they are used offensively
No. He was the tackler. Heavy chest to chest impact.
Looked like helmet was there too. But I've seen much worse. He might have an undiagnosed condition like Christian Eriksen
i saw an interesting hypothesis where there is a split second in the heartbeat cycle where the heart is actually quite exposed and in danger. If the hit was right at this minuscule point in time, and throw in a hit of adrenalin from the whiplash effect, and his heart rhythm gets proper fucked up. Hence why he got up, but then immediately collapsed.
scary shit man. the collision sports really are stupid
They used to teach the precordial thump in resuscitation courses. My basic understanding is if you see someone collapse it is possible to correct their cardiac arrhythmia by administering a hard hit to the sternum. Perhaps the principle behind this applies here, that you can knock someone out of rhythm. Either way they got to him super fast, so that should increase his chances of survival, without knowing exactly what has gone wrong
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@Dan54 said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan I thought it was illegal to use helmet to hit with on purpose, college game I watched last week player was penalised for it.
College has stricter rules than the NFL. Leading with the helmet a penalty but unnecessary roughness rather than targeting. (That means it's not reviewable and not an automatic ejection) It's technically a foul if either the offence or the defence does it but it's quite unusual for it to be called against the offence. It generally has to be blatantly leading with the helmet (eg lowering the head) and striking with the crown of the helmet rather than a glancing blow.
NFL rule book is insane in the level of detail it goes into.
