Chiefs v Highlanders
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@Duluth said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Just rated no.3 behind Cruden and Trask.
If Cruden and Trask were injured would he start? Or would they move McKenzie and change they back three?
I suspect he's ranked lower than 3rd
Falcon has been unlucky with his injuries but I am sure he would slot into 1st 5 as DMac wants to concentrate on fullback. He'd be more steady than MMac was.
Trask is still only 21, and in his first year of SR, but he has shown he has a bright future. Go back to the NZ U20 backs which only clicked once Trask moved to 1st 5 and Plummer moved out to 2nd 5. The problem next year will be that he will be the senior pro at 22. Reihana has just turned 20. Some experience would be good.
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@Machpants said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Nepia I disagree, he is being bigged up by the commentary team as he runs around like a blue arsed fly, it looks cool, but doesn't seem to do much for his team. He needs to calm down and take a tactical decision more than he runs sideways around the backfield
That doesn’t happen anywhere near as much as you make out.
When it has (I remember once) it was because play had got very messy and it was a good decision to buy time for others to get reorganised and reset with one eye on opportunity. It looks worse than it is and isn’t necessarily headless -
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 As I have mentioned earlier, Wainui seems to be their preferred winger (in 11 or 14). He's safe, and a good defender, but not a game-breaker. A puzzling selection.
Wainui is excellent. Really unappreciated by chiefs fans. Stevenson does about one good thing a game and then spends the rest of his time trying to look cool.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 As I have mentioned earlier, Wainui seems to be their preferred winger (in 11 or 14). He's safe, and a good defender, but not a game-breaker. A puzzling selection.
Wainui is excellent. Really unappreciated by chiefs fans. Stevenson does about one good thing a game and then spends the rest of his time trying to look cool.
He wasn't always though and I guess it's taken a while for that stigma to lift - plus he still looks like a centre on the wing unlike Stevenson, who is really under-appreciated bb Bones.
I'd actually like to see Wainui get some midfield time.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Nepia Stevenson isn't half the player Wainui is! Happy for the Landers to take Wainui off your hands so you can concentrate on that blockbuster pair that are better.
No, I'd like to keep them both. You have so many good backs Walden can't get a run so keep your mitts off ours.
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@Nepia said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Nepia Stevenson isn't half the player Wainui is! Happy for the Landers to take Wainui off your hands so you can concentrate on that blockbuster pair that are better.
You have so many good backs Walden can't get a run so keep your mitts off ours.
Ouch, but I did laugh.
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@Nepia said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Nepia Stevenson isn't half the player Wainui is! Happy for the Landers to take Wainui off your hands so you can concentrate on that blockbuster pair that are better.
No, I'd like to keep them both. You have so many good backs Walden can't get a run so keep your mitts off ours.
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He's pretty rocks/diamonds, but his boot has been really under appreciated. He has scored or created a number of great tries for us and with his kicking has helped get us out of trouble on occasion. He's a bit of poor man's James Lowe, but that still makes him better than the other options.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
He's pretty rocks/diamonds, but his boot has been really under appreciated. He has scored or created a number of great tries for us and with his kicking has helped get us out of trouble on occasion. He's a bit of poor man's James Lowe, but that still makes him better than the other options.
Yeah as opposed to Wainui who is just shit eh?
Apart from the many, many more good plays he's been part of. Stevenson reminds me of a 15s version of Ambrose Curtis.
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@Nepia said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 As I have mentioned earlier, Wainui seems to be their preferred winger (in 11 or 14). He's safe, and a good defender, but not a game-breaker. A puzzling selection.
Wainui is excellent. Really unappreciated by chiefs fans. Stevenson does about one good thing a game and then spends the rest of his time trying to look cool.
He wasn't always though and I guess it's taken a while for that stigma to lift - plus he still looks like a centre on the wing unlike Stevenson, who is really under-appreciated bb Bones.
I'd actually like to see Wainui get some midfield time.
He did end up at centre in the Canes game.
Wainui doesn't really have the top-end speed of a winger, but has played well this year. My comment was more about expecting a little more rotation on the wing but he has been the one constant.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@gt12 said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
He's pretty rocks/diamonds, but his boot has been really under appreciated. He has scored or created a number of great tries for us and with his kicking has helped get us out of trouble on occasion. He's a bit of poor man's James Lowe, but that still makes him better than the other options.
Yeah as opposed to Wainui who is just shit eh?
Apart from the many, many more good plays he's been part of. Stevenson reminds me of a 15s version of Ambrose Curtis.
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This is a story you are the only one telling
Please look up at my post about three posts up
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Wainui doesn't really have the top-end speed
That's another myth often brought up as a negative. Got anything to back it up? I've seen him on plenty of breaks, chases and pace has certainly not been an issue.
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@Bones said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Highlanders:
Wainui doesn't really have the top-end speed
That's another myth often brought up as a negative. Got anything to back it up? I've seen him on plenty of breaks, chases and pace has certainly not been an issue.
My eyes at the games relative to other players. Wainui is not a winger who will run around a defender, or beat them on the outside. I am more than happy to be proved wrong tomorrow.
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That's really just a straight run to the line after being put into space by ALB. I've also seen Wainui caught from behind with the tryline in front of him.
All I'm saying is that he is a converted centre, so doesn't have the speed of a specialist winger.
