A Global Season?
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@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
It's also shows how flexible SANZAAR are. 6N can say how great they are moving it a month, good on them. But the RC then will either be, once again, during super rugby, this time towards the start, or before SR with a massive calendar change. That's a shit time for SH.
Seems good on the surface, but will have hte same effect on NH comps I suspect. Unless they realign as well.
NH: Autumn Internationals (october/november?) -> Club rugby comps --> March/April 6N+ SH tours May/June. Offseason July-SeptSH: March/April 6N + NG Tours (May/June) -> Super June-Oct --> Autumn Internationals (october/november?). Offseason Dec-Feb. Maybe there's a warmup somehwere in March (early Super rounds?) but it would be damn awkward.
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@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
The tours look to be both in autumn now, not split, but yeah anything to fix the mess out would be good
Yep, PlanetRugby actually has a useful article. So there would just be a break in the club comps for 6N/RC and other rugby? Then we'd lose June tours, but get October tours?
Principles below
SANZAAR and Six Nations hold talks over global calendar
SANZAAR and the Six Nations have revealed that they are working together to create an aligned global Test calendar moving forward.
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Significantly mitigate overlaps between club and country fixtures
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Better aligned player release windows for players, stakeholders and competitions
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Improve player welfare
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Improve narrative and competitiveness of International and Domestic Competitions around clear windows
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Define clear high-performance pathways for Emerging Nations through the delivery of an internationally more inclusive game
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Evolve competition structures that are underpinned with enhanced commercial offerings
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Restore public faith in the core values of rugby and showing strong collective leadership in the best interests of the game.
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@nzzp said in NH International Rugby:
@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
The tours look to be both in autumn now, not split, but yeah anything to fix the mess out would be good
Yep, PlanetRugby actually has a useful article. So there would just be a break in the club comps for 6N/RC and other rugby? Then we'd lose June tours, but get October tours?
Principles below
SANZAAR and the Six Nations have revealed that they are working together to create an aligned global Test calendar moving forward.
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Significantly mitigate overlaps between club and country fixtures
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Better aligned player release windows for players, stakeholders and competitions
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Improve player welfare
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Improve narrative and competitiveness of International and Domestic Competitions around clear windows
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Define clear high-performance pathways for Emerging Nations through the delivery of an internationally more inclusive game
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Evolve competition structures that are underpinned with enhanced commercial offerings
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Restore public faith in the core values of rugby and showing strong collective leadership in the best interests of the game.
And Planet Rugby win corporate wankword bingo in one article.
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@Catogrande that's world rugby. Planet rugby just repeated it.
Classic corporate committee
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@Machpants said in A Global Season?:
The tours look to be both in autumn now, not split, but yeah anything to fix the mess out would be good
March April May?
It's autumn now.
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I'm cautiously ok with this.
- It would make RWC year TRCs worth playing? Instead of some curse teams want to lose on purpose.
But I also want SR to fuck off out of my cricket season. So dont want it starting too soon to give enough warm up for the TRC.
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Having the regional/continental annual tournaments in 1 block, with no club rugby overlap, good for the Americas Rugby Championship and the Rugby Europe one. Good for a) player release, and b) rugby Europe currently has Russia playing their test championship in their frozen off season.
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A combined back to back 'NH autumn' window (assume 6 weeks?) would allow my proposed second regional tournament, the Pan-Pacs, to not have to squeeze into a 3 week November window, would really need 4 weeks minimum.
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@Machpants said in A Global Season?:
@booboo autumn NH
It's a bugbear of mine (I have a few).
I find calling them Autumn Internationals, when they happen in Spring, arrogant and self- important, like calling a national body of the sport The Rugby Union.
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TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.
Super Rugby
Rugby Championship
All Blacks home series (October)
Northern Tour (November)That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.
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@Bovidae said in A Global Season?:
TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.
Super Rugby
Rugby Championship
All Blacks home series (October)
Northern Tour (November)That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.
How is this any better for us than what happens right now? Surely any Nations League could be achieved whatever the calendar looks like. People have harped on about a global season for years but I have not seen one proposal that is better than the status quo in terms of season structure. Maybe some other structures will make us more money?
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@Bovidae said in A Global Season?:
TV3 news saying that the likely new format will be as I describe above.
Super Rugby
Rugby Championship
All Blacks home series (October)
Northern Tour (November)That's going to be one hell of a test workload for the ABs and other SH nations, more than even a RWC, with 3-4 months of test matches and travel as part of that. Rob Nicol is rightly concerned about player welfare.
That's ridiculous. What muppet thinks that is sustainable?
I'm with Rob - tours make more sense and would be awesome for fans.
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@nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens). SANZAAR want to have an uninterrupted SR competition so why would they agree to playing tests in the middle of that? Not to mention having to select a test squad before your own competition has even reached the halfway point.
The story about the new global rugby season seems to be changing every week, and, as usual, there will be a compromise that neither hemisphere completely likes. Removing the June/July international window avoids an overlap with club finals in the NH, often resulting in understrength teams touring south.
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@Bovidae said in A Global Season?:
@nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens).
I know. But why move the 6N if we don't move the RC and create a proper 'window'?
So much scuttlebut running around at the moment on this, hopefully there is some progress that makes sense at the end. Splitting competitions is a bit suck, and no good for rugby
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@nzzp said in A Global Season?:
@nzzp It is not logical to move the RC forward to March/April to align with a delayed 6N (if that indeed happens).
I know. But why move the 6N if we don't move the RC and create a proper 'window'?
So much scuttlebut running around at the moment on this, hopefully there is some progress that makes sense at the end. Splitting competitions is a bit suck, and no good for rugbyIdeally you would run both INternational comps around the same time, so that when the tours happen, both Hemispeheres are at the same point (in good form, not at the end of a long season blah blah blah)
