All Blacks Tests 2020
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@Kirwan rugby at all levels, all community sport and activity has been a big loser...but thats for another thread.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@akan004 said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Cindy blaming SANZAAR politics for Australia getting it. Typical of her, blaming everyone else but her government.
Must be an election coming up...
Her lockdown rules fucking over the All Blacks should be a vote winner
Not sure that she realises that 23 of the most popular people in the country aren't politicians. Actually parliament probably come in just ahead of criminals (not to same that they aren't one and the same).
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@Snowy said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@akan004 said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Cindy blaming SANZAAR politics for Australia getting it. Typical of her, blaming everyone else but her government.
Must be an election coming up...
Her lockdown rules fucking over the All Blacks should be a vote winner
Not sure that she realises that 23 of the most popular people in the country aren't politicians. Actually parliament probably come in just ahead of criminals (not to same that they aren't one and the same).
22! DMac gets way too much jip!!
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Financial incentives from the Ozzie govts will be the turning point, guaranteed money. Cest la vie, you just got to hope outside can actually fill stadiums, Esp if ABs smash em in the first two Bleds, and for the games without Oz. I reckon they'll struggle
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Financial incentives from the Ozzie govts will be the turning point, guaranteed money. Cest la vie, you just got to hope outside can actually fill stadiums, Esp if ABs smash em in the first two Bleds, and for the games without Oz. I reckon they'll struggle
And crowds. If NZ is at level 2 in November then the games will be played in empty stadiums. Not a great look.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Financial incentives from the Ozzie govts will be the turning point, guaranteed money. Cest la vie, you just got to hope outside can actually fill stadiums, Esp if ABs smash em in the first two Bleds, and for the games without Oz. I reckon they'll struggle
Don't politicians do well when the AB's do well?
Ole Cindy will be bricking it with Foster in charge and the AB's away from home. Coupled with potentially losing the bled, because Fozzie.
National could walk this Election....
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Financial incentives from the Ozzie govts will be the turning point, guaranteed money. Cest la vie, you just got to hope outside can actually fill stadiums, Esp if ABs smash em in the first two Bleds, and for the games without Oz. I reckon they'll struggle
Yeah. The aussies aren't going to allow teams to be having any more latitude than what we have indicated. It will be $. RA subsidising with borrowed funds to try and keep the game alive.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Crucial and the governments, state govt already said they will offer incentives to sporting events
So you end up in a pissing contest to get the games.
I dare say that if our govt paid SANZAR to host there would be an outcry of vote buying. If they haven't there's an outcry of 'why didn't you help'.
No win situation really.
If there was a profit element to the country of hosting then they could argue the spend (like Americas Cup) but if just for feel good factor then they would be putting themselves squarely in Judith's sights. -
@Crucial no garantee of crowds vs currently allowed crowds will have been a factor.
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They will have to expand the AB squad now. Good news for guys like Josh Ioane etc.
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and confirmed, so early Nov, hopefully NPC teams keep thier ABs for at least 4 rounds (3/4th October)
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@taniwharugby Bledisloe in early October so I doubt that will happen.
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@akan004 oh I missed that, I was just looking at the early November TRC dates
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@akan004 oh I missed that, I was just looking at the early November TRC dates
Apparently the Bledisloe games in NZ will be most likely held on the 17th and 24th of October so you may be right, they could leave the ABs in the NPC till early October. I guess it depends on how much time Foster thinks he needs to prepare the team.
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I'll start with the good news:
Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particular and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.Disappointed:
How long this has taken to organise.
The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly. -
@sparky said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
I'll start with the good news:
Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particularly and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.Disappointed:
How long this has taken to organise.
The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly.Not sure two games with no crowds would have bought in much less than 6 games with no crowds.
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@booboo said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@sparky said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
I'll start with the good news:
Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particularly and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.Disappointed:
How long this has taken to organise.
The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly.Not sure two games with no crowds would have bought in much less than 6 games with no crowds.
On the plus side less hosting expenses.
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@mariner4life AFL Grand final has just been confirmed as 7:30pm (Melbourne time) start. That means it won’t clash with Bledisloe.
Happy days.
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Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ
Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
Fkn stupidAt least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing
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And I thought we had clowns running jurisdictions in Australia.
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If there wasn't going to be crowds, why do we care so much?
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I genuinely don't understand why you couldn't have entire squads in their own bubble. What level of bureaucratic intransigence do you have to suggest a bunch of players who fly over together,live in the same hotel can't train together?
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@antipodean yeah I agree, one big bubble and if there is one case in it, tough shit for your entire team, game over.
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You should’t change your rules for anyone. It’s just stupid. Especially for players coming from South Africa and Argentina. If we lost it because we want to be a little more cautious then good call. Though I suspect Jacinda is correct - we got screwed on the politics and the money. The NZRU is running true to form - they screwed up with the arrogant way they handled the Super rugby discussion as well. They may have been right but what did they expect with a throat cutting ultimatum.
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And another thing. Throwing around large economic impact studies. Give me a break. No tourism and no crowds. Where is that money coming from?
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@Bones they are looking to have crowds, will ge crowd at the Reds game tonight apparently
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@taniwharugby yeah exactly, as I understand it there wouldn't be crowds in NZ? Win win.
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@Bones sorry I thought you meant wouldnt be crowd at any games
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@taniwharugby so I don't understand why anyone would be upset about "losing" it to Aus from an NZR perspective.
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@Bones said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@taniwharugby yeah exactly, as I understand it there wouldn't be crowds in NZ? Win win.
Well if, as is likely the not guaranteed, we are at level 1 by then, NZ would have full stadiums
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@Machpants colour me unconvinced...
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Negative noo noo
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@Machpants or Aus go back up levels....
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:
@Machpants or Aus go back up levels....
NZ government could ask Ta$man for a loan and steal it back.
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That's far enough away that we'd probably be at level 1, and MBIE did some work on options for holding events at level 2 - basically, divide the crowd into separate sections of 100.
NZR can blame the government all they like, but if the Rugby Championship was a source of the reintroduction of Covid-19, and more people died from it, it would be reputationally ruinous for NZR and the government.
Also while the border is closed, the economic impact for NZ is fuck all because people would have spent the money anyway on something else.
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