All Blacks XV - New second tier team
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
More info here:
I do like the suggestion of rewarding NPC form.
What a fuct headline
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
@antipodean My reading of it, is the use of All Blacks in the team name, like the Sevens team. This point has been raised in this thread.
Oh no, the precedent! Next they'll have the Maori All Blacks, or the All Black Sevens...
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Will this be a registered second team and lock players in to NZ eligibility wise? I know the 7s pathway exists, but that's still significant if true.
Double edged sword though. The England, Ireland and Wales of the world will be missing out on the guys they're able to collect on residency and grandparent clauses, but it may also negatively impact on some of the Pacific Island players who may have played for one of those countries.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
@antipodean My reading of it, is the use of All Blacks in the team name, like the Sevens team. This point has been raised in this thread.
Oh no, the precedent! Next they'll have the Maori All Blacks, or the All Black Sevens...
The Junior All Blacks....
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@Tim said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
Locks
Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Barrett + 1 in the ABs.
Contenders:
Allardice
Cowley-Tuioti
IWL
Dunshea
Strange
DicksonMaybe Strange to the ABs, leaving IWL, GCT, and Dunshea for the B team. Dickson for fourth lock?
For me a weak area. Compare England, who can choose from Kruis, Itoje, Lawes and Launchbury, not to mention Ewels, etc..
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@voodoo said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
Be interesting to see if Jordie Barrett plays at 12.
Would he be the tallest 12 we have ever fielded?
QUICK - to the "Tallest All Blacks XV" thread!
I can't remember who started that, so apologies in advance - but jeez, I'm embarrassed that it really does(/did) exist. -
From the Planet Rugby website:
The newly formed All Blacks XV, Fiji, USA and Canada will participate in the inaugural Halloween Rugby Weekend, at BC Place Stadium in Vancouver this October. The games will feature the All Blacks XV squaring off against the Flying Fijians on Halloween night, Saturday, October 30, and Canada hitting the pitch against their continental rivals the USA on Friday, October 30. The event is the first leg of a three-city world tour by the All Blacks XV team and was announced prior to the final of the wildly successful Vancouver Sevens tournament also staged at BC Place. All Blacks hooker Nathan Harris and Fiji fly-half Ben Volavola were in attendance at the Vancouver Sevens and are excited to compete in front of Vancouver fans this October.More: https://www.planetrugby.com/all-blacks-xv-to-tour-northern-hemisphere/
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@Tim said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
1st 5:
Big question over third AB ten.
Ioane, Black, and Smith are probably the most prominent this year. Perhaps two of those (Black and Smith) plus a player who covers 10 from another position like Havili, Stevenson, or Perofeta.
With Mo'unga, Barrett and McKenzie in an AB squad, you don't need another 10.
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@Tim said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
Locks
Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Barrett + 1 in the ABs.
Contenders:
Allardice
Cowley-Tuioti
IWL
Dunshea
Strange
DicksonMaybe Strange to the ABs, leaving IWL, GCT, and Dunshea for the B team. Dickson for fourth lock?
Jeez I heard Jason Pyne on RS this morning name a scratch 15 and he had James Blackwell as a lock. If any senior NZ rep team ever selects a 1.90m lock forward, I'll strap myself to a Nth Korean ICBM and ask them to point it at NZR HQ.
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@shark said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
@Tim said in All Blacks XV - New second tier team:
1st 5:
Big question over third AB ten.
Ioane, Black, and Smith are probably the most prominent this year. Perhaps two of those (Black and Smith) plus a player who covers 10 from another position like Havili, Stevenson, or Perofeta.
With Mo'unga, Barrett and McKenzie in an AB squad, you don't need another 10.
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Name doesn't bother me too much, after the JABs, AB7s and MABs this is now standard procedure. A bit of too little too late considering the last JAB game was in 2009 and since recently the udpated 5 year residency requirement will mean the number of guys being capped for Scotland, Ireland, Wales etc. will drop significantly (assuming this is a capped side).
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Unless NZR officialy go to world rugby and change the designated side, which is currenlty JAB, players in this side won't be captured. I don't know if NZR will, I think they will rely on the carrot of possible later full AB rather than tying in players who may never represent NZ again, and then can't anyone else. But maybe I am assigning too much altruism to NZR!
