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    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.

    I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.

    Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).

    I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.

    Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.

    Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.

    You still don't have fibre? WTF.

    I think he has FTTN? Isn't that right @NTA ?

    Like having a motorway nearby with a single track dirt road leading to it.

    Correct - VDSL. Which in my bro-in-law's case means he can get 95/40 but I get 25/7.

    Cos you still have a copper feeder to the node and copper is so 1900s.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    At the end of last week, TPG Telecom announced it had extended its fibre network in regional areas and was able to offer businesses connectivity at speeds greater than 250Mbps. Beginning at AU$384 a month including GST for the 250Mbps plan, the telco is also offering 400Mbps for AU$440 a month, and 1Gbps for AU$880 a month.

    WTAF!

    80 NZ Pesos for giga plans to households here with 3giga plans about to be rolled out.

    1/10th of that price.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by
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    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.

    I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.

    Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).

    I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.

    Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.

    Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.

    You still don't have fibre? WTF.

    dude i have copper. and i am at the very end of the line. my internet speed can be catagorised as "dial up" and it drops out just so so often.

    It's fucking great. We don't appear to be on the NBN plan any time in the future. Also Telstra have approx zero fucks to give about the copper network any more, so i have the worst of both worlds

    The best satellite solution is like 200 a month.

    so we're fucked.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in internet/streaming:

    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.

    I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.

    Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).

    I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.

    Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.

    Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.

    You still don't have fibre? WTF.

    dude i have copper. and i am at the very end of the line. my internet speed can be catagorised as "dial up" and it drops out just so so often.

    It's fucking great. We don't appear to be on the NBN plan any time in the future. Also Telstra have approx zero fucks to give about the copper network any more, so i have the worst of both worlds

    The best satellite solution is like 200 a month.

    so we're fucked.

    Jesus. It's frankly commendable how often you're able to go on your rants on here with that 3rd world service.

    What's your 4G like out there?

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @mariner4life said in internet/streaming:

    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.

    I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.

    Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).

    I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.

    Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.

    Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.

    You still don't have fibre? WTF.

    dude i have copper. and i am at the very end of the line. my internet speed can be catagorised as "dial up" and it drops out just so so often.

    It's fucking great. We don't appear to be on the NBN plan any time in the future. Also Telstra have approx zero fucks to give about the copper network any more, so i have the worst of both worlds

    The best satellite solution is like 200 a month.

    so we're fucked.

    Jesus. It's frankly commendable how often you're able to go on your rants on here with that 3rd world service.

    What's your 4G like out there?

    average. this morning worse than the wifi. It's really weird. We're tucked in to the base of the mountains which fucks up the signal at times.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in internet/streaming:

    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @mariner4life said in internet/streaming:

    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.

    I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.

    Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).

    I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.

    Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.

    Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.

    You still don't have fibre? WTF.

    dude i have copper. and i am at the very end of the line. my internet speed can be catagorised as "dial up" and it drops out just so so often.

    It's fucking great. We don't appear to be on the NBN plan any time in the future. Also Telstra have approx zero fucks to give about the copper network any more, so i have the worst of both worlds

    The best satellite solution is like 200 a month.

    so we're fucked.

    Jesus. It's frankly commendable how often you're able to go on your rants on here with that 3rd world service.

    What's your 4G like out there?

    average. this morning worse than the wifi. It's really weird. We're tucked in to the base of the mountains which fucks up the signal at times.

    Ah that sucks, I've got a mate who is rural near Newcastle and they have Telstra 4G and it's been great for them.

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    bayimports
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life lol so how many times have you missed placing a bet before a race? ...time out.. and its jumped..

    thats shit

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    replied to bayimports on last edited by
    #88

    @bayimports said in internet/streaming:

    @mariner4life lol so how many times have you missed placing a bet before a race? ...time out.. and its jumped..

    thats shit

    couple of times, but as it's on my phone, and the phone is generally okay, it's few and far between.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by NTA
    #89

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.

    I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.

    Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).

    I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.

    Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.

    Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.

    You still don't have fibre? WTF.

    I think he has FTTN? Isn't that right @NTA ?

    Like having a motorway nearby with a single track dirt road leading to it.

    Correct - VDSL. Which in my bro-in-law's case means he can get 95/40 but I get 25/7.

    Cos you still have a copper feeder to the node and copper is so 1900s.

    My copper-to-node run approx 820m. His <200m.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    At the end of last week, TPG Telecom announced it had extended its fibre network in regional areas and was able to offer businesses connectivity at speeds greater than 250Mbps. Beginning at AU$384 a month including GST for the 250Mbps plan, the telco is also offering 400Mbps for AU$440 a month, and 1Gbps for AU$880 a month.

    WTAF!

    80 NZ Pesos for giga plans to households here with 3giga plans about to be rolled out.

    1/10th of that price.

    Because it is a captive market in the regions.

    And I wouldn't trust TPG to send me porn, so fuck all of that. Everyone promises "business grade" support, including Telstra, but at the end of the day, the same backhaul is used for everything, so you might as well buy consumer grade and risk it.

    Besides videoconferencing - which is well compressed anyway and doesn't need more than 100mbps - rural business won't benefit from much more.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    including Telstra,

    Actually, funny story about that: Telstra 4G is almost nonexistent around here, and particularly my house because of the steel roof (front step not much better). I live 32km as the crow flies from the centre of the biggest CBD in Australia, and don't have anything like a mountain in the way of the nearest tower.

    In any case, my ISP swapped from Optus to Telstra. Good price so I went with it.

    Fucking. Dud.

    Dropped my ISP after many years together, and went to another mob. Optus MVNO, based onshore, price versus data is superb. They also support Wifi Calling now which makes life much easier under the colourbond roof. That was about 4 months ago.

    Last week I get a knock on the door. Nice young lady said she was from a TV production company* and said they were looking for residential shooting locations for a Telstra ad. I chuckled and said "no thanks" partly because they needed to use a room of the house for the child stars to change in, and also because FUCK Telstra.

    It just made me laugh: the fact that they were shooting a Telstra ad in a location with no Telstra coverage.


    *I mentioned I had a fair bit of experience with TV production, but spared her the detail of my time as the Tesla Powerwall poster boy 😉 I de-wankered myself out of choice. I'm growing as a person.

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    @nepia said in internet/streaming:

    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    So the issue may just be there/the connection to the ONT. Most like just the statndard old reboot the router to clear things. Sounds like the Deco network is fine.

    I've got a Google Wifi Mesh, and it is great but every now and then the master unit loses track of the 2 nodes.

    Google said the logs are showing a dual-NAT issue between the Google master (which is a router) and my modem/router (Fritz!Box 7490 connecting the VDSL).

    I'm not sure that is the case - the router is operating a different subnet to the Mesh units to start with, and the Master unit still supplies perfectly good wifi to the outside world. Therefore the NAT should never cross over.

    Anyway I just power off everything and power it back on, sorted in under 5 minutes. Small price to pay for great in-house connection.

    Apparently our suburb is getting Fibre soon. The good news there is I can keep the modem I've got. Quite like the Fritz.

    You still don't have fibre? WTF.

    I don't and at an educated guess it will be closer to the end of this decade than the start of it before I will get it. And I pay $100 a month for the privilege. For that I can thank Rudd, Conroy and Turnbull. Fuckwits the lot of them.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Can you guys get Skynet fromMr Musk? Seems better and cheaper than what you have.
    We are looking at rural property down south and that is by far our best option.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by NTA
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    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    Can you guys get Skynet fromMr Musk? Seems better and cheaper than what you have.
    We are looking at rural property down south and that is by far our best option.

    Beta phase I believe for Starlink - southern NSW and northern VIC.

    $499 setup including dish, and ~$139 per month for median 113mbps (latency 20ms+) means it beats the shit out of most offerings in small rural Australia, that's for sure.

    Early FTTP centres like Armidale (6 hours north of Sydney) have been enjoying FTTP for nearly 8 years now.

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    We got NBN very early. Paid $80pm for 50mbps plan. Typically got 23/5 (fibre to the street, telstra cable to house)

    Switched to Thryve recently. Same price, get 130/40 all the time, and the pool gets the wifi with just 2 router thingees

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    Can you guys get Skynet fromMr Musk? Seems better and cheaper than what you have.
    We are looking at rural property down south and that is by far our best option.

    Most of the time I live in civilisation so Skynet wouldn't work. If by the time I move to the farm permanently it doesn't have fibre to the mailbox, I'll get it done regardless. I doubt Skynet will exist by then.

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    bayimports
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    @antipodean skynet not around in the future you say?

    Your browser does not support HTML5 video.
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    @nta said in internet/streaming:

    I de-wankered myself

    Debatable...

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    @voodoo said in internet/streaming:

    We got NBN very early. Paid $80pm for 50mbps plan. Typically got 23/5 (fibre to the street, telstra cable to house)

    Switched to Thryve recently. Same price, get 130/40 all the time, and the pool gets the wifi with just 2 router thingees

    Good example of a company fulfilling a need that the rollout doesn't.
    Crazy that you could only get 23/5 in your area so no wonder that someone stepped in with a wireless solution. That's what @NTA is missing.

    Similar thing down in the Queenstown basin. Lots of lifestyle blocks that aren't getting fibre in the govt rollout so a company has come in with a 40/40 wireless product that runs from Coronet Peak. Not too many signal shadows from there and the symmetrical product suits the at home business needs of many for uploads. Not sure if they have plans to boost speeds past that. Your experience shows that it is technically possible but I guess it is a cost layout thing for the company.

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    @crucial said in internet/streaming:

    @voodoo said in internet/streaming:

    We got NBN very early. Paid $80pm for 50mbps plan. Typically got 23/5 (fibre to the street, telstra cable to house)

    Switched to Thryve recently. Same price, get 130/40 all the time, and the pool gets the wifi with just 2 router thingees

    Good example of a company fulfilling a need that the rollout doesn't.
    Crazy that you could only get 23/5 in your area so no wonder that someone stepped in with a wireless solution. That's what @NTA is missing.

    Similar thing down in the Queenstown basin. Lots of lifestyle blocks that aren't getting fibre in the govt rollout so a company has come in with a 40/40 wireless product that runs from Coronet Peak. Not too many signal shadows from there and the symmetrical product suits the at home business needs of many for uploads. Not sure if they have plans to boost speeds past that. Your experience shows that it is technically possible but I guess it is a cost layout thing for the company.

    To be fair, I (presumably) could have got faster speeds if I'd paid for them. I paid for 50mbps to get my 25, I assume I could have gotten 50mbps by paying for 100...

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