Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020
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@nzzp said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Ross's 100th test match results in 100th test win for NZ 👍
Ross has played in 36 of those victories.
I'm guessing that's a record for NZ players?
wonder how many Brian Waddle has commentated
Google tells me Brian started in 1981 - so possibly as many as 88!
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@Hooroo said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crucial said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Hooroo said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Crucial said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Meanwhile at Millbrook, it’s a cracker arvo watching DMac, BB, Goldie and Izzy smash it around in a T10
I see you're really struggling to adjust down there.... How is the meat bin?
The place we are looking after has a coupe of freezers full and considering that the front paddock has 20 Angus stud bulls in it, I'm guessing I can find something decent
Trouble is that I've got some Crays and Blue Cod to get through first.Weather is great though and I've just found out that entry to the Open is free so even though I'm not a golf fan, it is just down the road and might fill in a gap before the next test.
I could get very used to this life.
Sweet! We are one of the main sponsors so two from the business get to play the pro-am each year.
So far, not me
I only typed that to make @taniwharugby jealous
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@Cyclops said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Looking at a few recent Indian scorecards - I think Rohit Sharma is probably the only player they're missing from their top line-up?
I don't think he'd have added much. I think he might be the most overrated batsman in the world at the moment. Text book definition of a flat track bully.
Yeah, makes him a weapon in the batsmen friendly shorter forms, but not someone that concerns me a great deal in a test where the ball actually doing something.
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In the never ending search for narrative, what does this all mean. We just hammered India. We've beaten England. But we've also been ritually humiliated in Australia.
I'm kidding, I don't care. We just murdered India. Fucking yew!
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@mariner4life said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
In the never ending search for narrative, what does this all mean. We just hammered India. We've beaten England. But we've also been ritually humiliated in Australia.
I'm kidding, I don't care. We just murdered India. Fucking yew!
Number 1 side in the world by a fair margin. Number 1, then daylight.
Aus/Eng/NZ are clustered.
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Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
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@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Amazing considering that the pitches we prepare are generally more neutral than the old days. Still unfamiliar enough to present a major problem clearly
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@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
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@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
England just beat South Africa at home. But yeah, away test series wins are the absolute gold standard in test cricket at the moment.
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@No-Quarter yeah that is the bit that still pisses me off. We were definitely undercooked going into the series. Then losing Lovely Trenty and Ferg was pretty much the deathblow. Still really salty about us not having any warm ups in Oz, and bringing Ferg in with no warm up was just plain dumb. Really wish we could have played to our potential - still might have been smoked but ...
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@Paekakboyz said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter yeah that is the bit that still pisses me off. We were definitely undercooked going into the series. Then losing Lovely Trenty and Ferg was pretty much the deathblow. Still really salty about us not having any warm ups in Oz, and bringing Ferg in with no warm up was just plain dumb. Really wish we could have played to our potential - still might have been smoked but ...
.... you just want to see us come out swinging and give ourselves the best chance to compete. After no warm up games and playing in Perth in game 1, we had no chance
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@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
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@canefan and that should land squarely with NZC and ol Steady as she goes. Although we probably had sweet F all bargaining power with Oz to get a warm up. But that dropping Ferg into the mix totally under cooked is agggh material.
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
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@Paekakboyz I think (the cumulative effects of) a sequence of disasters derailed that tour in the first two days.
- Agreeing to play the first test in Perth on probably the world's fastest and bounciest pitch.
- Trent being injured.
- Losing the toss.
- Ferg getting injured and reducing our capacity/chances of knocking Oz over in the first night session.
- The Aussies batting precisely five sessions, so that we started our first innings under lights. Those two hours were some of the scariest bowling I've ever seen.
I think after two days we were pretty much shell-shocked.
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@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
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@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@canefan said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Chris-B said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@No-Quarter said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
@Virgil said in Indian Cricket Tour of NZ 2020:
Think it just highlights how difficult it is for teams to win away in Australia, New Zealand and India.
Especially when the home team wins the toss, cricinfo just put up an article highlighting this.We haven’t lost a test at home after winning the toss since 2009!! 10 wins, plus even when we lost the toss we still win more then we lose.
Yeah I posed the question earlier in the thread, when was the last time one of the big teams beat another big team away from home? Us getting smacked by the Aussies in between smacking England and India at home definitely reinforces that.
That said, we were fucking diabolical in Aus.
All that said - if/when the Aussies come here, I would be far from confident of beating them - even given our conditions - which probably aren't that dissimilar to places like Adelaide and Hobart. That we haven't beaten them in NZ in 30 years suggests we don't have any massive advantages at home.
In close to neutral conditions the Aussies are generally better than us 99 times out of 100
31 times out of 57!
Quite a few less, actually - because there's been not many played on neutral territory....
Neutral conditions not territory. They can beat us on quick decks, spinning decks, green decks. Man for man they are better than us, if your life was on the line and you had to pick a trans Ta$man 11 to play to save you, how many kiwis would you put in? But as a team we can hold our own
