The TSF Travel Tips Thread
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@Godder said in The TSF Travel Tips Thread:
@voodoo
https://covid19.govt.nz/travel-and-the-border/travel-within-new-zealand/regional-travel/#travel-into,-out-of-and-through-aucklandA lot more clarity there now - driving into Auckland to catch a commercial flight is expressly permitted.
Its hard to see if that's advice for L2 or L3
This isn't as clear:
https://covid19.govt.nz/covid-19/alert-system/alert-level-3/#travel-and-transport -
I think it's intended to apply during level 3 i.e. now because it's only been added recently. To quote from that page:
Permitted travel into, out of, or through Auckland
You are permitted to travel into, out of, or through Auckland in limited circumstances.
Limited personal circumstances
You can travel if you are:
*returning to your primary home
*attending a medical appointment, or need emergency medical care
*maintaining a shared childcare arrangement
*travelling into Auckland for the purposes of catching a commercial flight
*relocating a house or business
*to urgently care for a child, or a person in a critical or terminal condition if there is no other person who can provide that care.You do not require an exemption from the Ministry of Health to travel for these reasons — please do not apply.
You should bring, to show at the checkpoint:
*documents — either hard copy or electronic — that support your reason for travel (for example a tenancy agreement, court order, medical note, or appointment slip)
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@Godder said in The TSF Travel Tips Thread:
I think it's intended to apply during level 3 i.e. now because it's only been added recently. To quote from that page:
Permitted travel into, out of, or through Auckland
You are permitted to travel into, out of, or through Auckland in limited circumstances.
Limited personal circumstances
You can travel if you are:
*returning to your primary home
*attending a medical appointment, or need emergency medical care
*maintaining a shared childcare arrangement
*travelling into Auckland for the purposes of catching a commercial flight
*relocating a house or business
*to urgently care for a child, or a person in a critical or terminal condition if there is no other person who can provide that care.You do not require an exemption from the Ministry of Health to travel for these reasons — please do not apply.
You should bring, to show at the checkpoint:
*documents — either hard copy or electronic — that support your reason for travel (for example a tenancy agreement, court order, medical note, or appointment slip)
*photo identification.Well fingers fucking crossed man
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@taniwharugby said in The TSF Travel Tips Thread:
@voodoo hearing stories of some getting through with minimal fuss, others practically have to provide their last weeks movements, 3 forms of ID, mothers maiden name, Wifi Password and a Milky bar!
I would have thought your air tickets would be sufficient proof. Failing that whatsapp call your wife from the car and let her ear bash the cop
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@taniwharugby said in The TSF Travel Tips Thread:
@voodoo hearing stories of some getting through with minimal fuss, others practically have to provide their last weeks movements, 3 forms of ID, mothers maiden name, Wifi Password and a Milky bar!
Idiots could have cut straight to the Milky Bar and saved time.
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@voodoo said in The TSF Travel Tips Thread:
@Godder said in The TSF Travel Tips Thread:
I think it's intended to apply during level 3 i.e. now because it's only been added recently. To quote from that page:
Permitted travel into, out of, or through Auckland
You are permitted to travel into, out of, or through Auckland in limited circumstances.
Limited personal circumstances
You can travel if you are:
*returning to your primary home
*attending a medical appointment, or need emergency medical care
*maintaining a shared childcare arrangement
*travelling into Auckland for the purposes of catching a commercial flight
*relocating a house or business
*to urgently care for a child, or a person in a critical or terminal condition if there is no other person who can provide that care.You do not require an exemption from the Ministry of Health to travel for these reasons — please do not apply.
You should bring, to show at the checkpoint:
*documents — either hard copy or electronic — that support your reason for travel (for example a tenancy agreement, court order, medical note, or appointment slip)
*photo identification.Well fingers fucking crossed man
Honestly, these guys. How the fuck are people supposed to keep track of what you can and can't do? Look at the latest little addition that came with no discussion or announcement
Limited personal circumstances
You can travel if you are:returning to your primary home
attending a medical appointment, or need emergency medical care
maintaining a shared childcare arrangement
travelling into Auckland to catch a commercial flight, if you are allowed to enter Auckland under the other conditions listed on this page
relocating a house or business, or
to urgently care for a child, or a person in a critical or terminal condition if there is no other person who can provide that care. -
@Bones said in The TSF Travel Tips Thread:
@voodoo you meet those conditions don't you?
Its hard to say, other parts of the website talk about returning to your primary home in the context of it being in Auckland. But on the face of that section alone, which I'll be printing and carrying, it looks like it.
I just hate the way they keep on changing it though, it gives me no confidence that they won't change it again in a few days to explicitly rule out what we are doing.
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@Bones fair point. The 2 things that worry me are
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That the wording above is actually on the L1/2 Gov page, albeit it mentions L3 in the section too. Its not 100% clear when it applies. And
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Its a contradiction to the original Order, which says you can drive in if you live in Akl or you can fly in if youre transiting.
I assume the guidance updates the intent of the order, but as someone said earlier, it all depends on the copper you get at the checkpoint.
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@voodoo said in The TSF Travel Tips Thread:
@Bones fair point. The 2 things that worry me are
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That the wording above is actually on the L1/2 Gov page, albeit it mentions L3 in the section too. Its not 100% clear when it applies. And
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Its a contradiction to the original Order, which says you can drive in if you live in Akl or you can fly in if youre transiting.
I assume the guidance updates the intent of the order, but as someone said earlier, it all depends on the copper you get at the checkpoint.
And the milky bar. Don’t forget the milky bar!
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In all seriousness, this stuff really can mess with your mental state. I'm not typically an anxious guy, but this year has been massively testing and I find myself losing lots of sleep over stuff like these rules and wondering if we will make it home. I can only imagine what it's like for someone predisposed to anxiety or depression, or going through serious health, family or financial issues.
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It is pretty fucked up. One of my staff got told that she was going to be sent back yesterday (spend at least a week up north with nowhere to stay) and that was on the way back into the AKL region (which isn't because they have ballsed up the boundaries).
You would think that leaving level 3 would be tougher than going the other way, but common sense seems to have deserted us and the cop in question. All she did was go to an empty house under construction, saw no one (except the idiot cop) and return.
He backed down when she pointed at the two cops that had let her out and said that she didn't have her heart medication and had to get home. Was real police state intimidation stuff, and she was really upset. Technically she shouldn't have gone (I didn't know about it) but the cops should use a bit of discretion as well.