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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Bones said in Aging:

    @Victor-Meldrew Jesus fucking wept. Did no-one actually read NTA's POST? Or have you old fluffybunnies forgotten already? It fucken lasts longer!

    6 INCHES IS A BIG DEAL OK

    There are other ways to make it last longer (and not those little pills). They are just not the 'convenient' ones for the supermarket.
    To reference an earlier post about after school jobs, when the produce arrived from the market and was unloaded, one of the jobs was to trim the ends of the broccoli and stand it in water then store in the cooler. Same with things like asparagus.
    If a supermarket has to wrap things like apples and cabbages to make them last longer then they are selling you pretty old shite.

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    @Crucial said in Aging:

    @Bones said in Aging:

    @Victor-Meldrew Jesus fucking wept. Did no-one actually read NTA's POST? Or have you old fluffybunnies forgotten already? It fucken lasts longer!

    6 INCHES IS A BIG DEAL OK

    There are other ways to make it last longer (and not those little pills). They are just not the 'convenient' ones for the supermarket.
    To reference an earlier post about after school jobs, when the produce arrived from the market and was unloaded, one of the jobs was to trim the ends of the broccoli and stand it in water then store in the cooler. Same with things like asparagus.
    If a supermarket has to wrap things like apples and cabbages to make them last longer then they are selling you pretty old shite.

    All I see is euphemisms.

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  • M Offline
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    I guess most of you aren't old. Official

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50472775

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    @Machpants said in Aging:

    I guess most of you aren't old. Official

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50472775

    "70 is the new 65"

    Was getting the Suzuki 550 MoT'd a month or so back, and Mr & Mrs Dude rolled up on a Harley & a Honda 750 cruiser. Chatting to them, he was 72 & she was 71.

    Respect.

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  • NTAN Online
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    replied to MajorRage on last edited by NTA
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    @MajorRage said in Aging:

    Pretty one-dimensional argument you have there Nick

    🙄 Fucking hell, you ARE a grumpy old man.

    @NTA said in Aging:

    e.g. wrapping a cucumber in plastic

    The bit in bold - an abbreviation for exempli gratia, the Latin term that equates roughly to "for example".

    Not a hard concept, is it? One example. Not an exhaustive list addressing the crimes you've seen perpetrated by your local chain supermarket. Maybe put your glasses on next time, eh Methuselah? 😉

    @MajorRage said in Aging:

    Why is it I can do that any farmers market, local farm shop, produce retailer, but not at the supermarket?

    Are you getting it at the same price?
    Is the farmer's market also selling all the other goods you need?
    This - and all the things you mention - is the price of scale, convenience, and corporate profit to satisfy shareholders.

    You're clearly a discerning shopper, so by all means, in a free market choose where to spend your money if you don't like something.

    I'm not about to fly over for a fact-finding mission on the practices of every grocery retailer to give you the 400-page report on waste management, logistics, pricing models, and consumer behaviour in the UK sector. Why don't you ask the retailer directly why they do things a certain way if you think it should be changed?

    Unless, of course, you hate capitalism 😎

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA way to answer none of the questions but blast out a rhetoric of nothing.

    Let me be clearer.

    1. Supermarket return bins for their plastic are a waste of fucking time. They are a virtual signal feel good factor.

    2. Talk of shrink wrapping cucumbers (your point, not mine) as being better as it saves on resource use for transporting spoiled veges to farms is at very very best, laughable.

    Your big on renewables, I’m big on plastic waste.

    I’m not asking you to do any research, I’ve done loads myself and have asked the questions.

    Hence I’m grumpy about it. And not afraid to call bullshit on it.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    @MajorRage said in Aging:

    @NTA way to answer none of the questions but blast out a rhetoric of nothing.

    Let me be clearer.

    1. Supermarket return bins for their plastic are a waste of fucking time. They are a virtual signal feel good factor.

    2. Talk of shrink wrapping cucumbers (your point, not mine) as being better as it saves on resource use for transporting spoiled veges to farms is at very very best, laughable.

    Your big on renewables, I’m big on plastic waste.

    I’m not asking you to do any research, I’ve done loads myself and have asked the questions.

    Hence I’m grumpy about it. And not afraid to call bullshit on it.

    You're big on renewables.
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    I thought pointing that out in this thread was very apt...

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA Jesus, you are so getting promoted next week.

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    @MajorRage said in Aging:

    @NTA way to answer none of the questions but blast out a rhetoric of nothing.

    Let me be clearer.

    1. Supermarket return bins for their plastic are a waste of fucking time. They are a virtual signal feel good factor.

    2. Talk of shrink wrapping cucumbers (your point, not mine) as being better as it saves on resource use for transporting spoiled veges to farms is at very very best, laughable.

    Your big on renewables, I’m big on plastic waste.

    I’m not asking you to do any research, I’ve done loads myself and have asked the questions.

    Hence I’m grumpy about it. And not afraid to call bullshit on it.

    I said don't start me on apostrophes ...

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  • JCJ Offline
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    One thing that I find makes me grumpier is the avalanche of stupid songs. Dance Monkey - WTF? Anything with autotune. Practically everything on high rotate on commercial radio - I know I'm hardly their target demographic but use some imagination you lazy pricks.

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    @MajorRage said in Aging:

    I’m not asking you to do any research, I’ve done loads myself and have asked the questions.

    So you'd be aware that Supermarkets get paid to deliver soft plastics and other materials for recycling?

    And that many large Supermarkets are establishing programs for "360 degree economy" in order to figure out how they can get to net positive status on waste, energy, and sustainability?

    All that said, I'm not sure why you're so grumpy about it. 🙂

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aging:

    @MajorRage said in Aging:

    I’m not asking you to do any research, I’ve done loads myself and have asked the questions.

    So you'd be aware that Supermarkets get paid to deliver soft plastics and other materials for recycling?

    Up until recently when China and now Indonesia and Philippines have pulled pin on dumping ground for mixed waste. Now there is no value in it

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  • HigginsH Offline
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    @Hooroo Rather hypocritical of them considering they are essentially dumping some shite manufacturing on us and we are simply sending it back to them when it breaks.

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  • NTAN Online
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    @Hooroo said in Aging:

    @NTA said in Aging:

    @MajorRage said in Aging:

    I’m not asking you to do any research, I’ve done loads myself and have asked the questions.

    So you'd be aware that Supermarkets get paid to deliver soft plastics and other materials for recycling?

    Up until recently when China and now Indonesia and Philippines have pulled pin on dumping ground for mixed waste. Now there is no value in it

    Hence the 360 degree programs - opportunities to create industry in other countries including domestic processing.

    The waste market, like the stock market, ebbs and flows depending on regional conditions. We get an update about once a month on what the carboard market is doing, for example.

    Food waste was the one that struck me the most - $20B in Australia alone every year. I hate food waste, as my parents drilled into me from an early age to clean the plate 🤔 not the primary reason I'm a fat bastard, but anyway... Its a big issue.

    https://www.woolworthsgroup.com.au/page/media/Latest_News/woolworths-reaches-major-milestone-in-fight-against-food-waste

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    replied to NTA on last edited by
    #167

    @NTA said in Aging:

    @Hooroo said in Aging:

    @NTA said in Aging:

    @MajorRage said in Aging:

    I’m not asking you to do any research, I’ve done loads myself and have asked the questions.

    So you'd be aware that Supermarkets get paid to deliver soft plastics and other materials for recycling?

    Up until recently when China and now Indonesia and Philippines have pulled pin on dumping ground for mixed waste. Now there is no value in it

    Hence the 360 degree programs - opportunities to create industry in other countries including domestic processing.

    The waste market, like the stock market, ebbs and flows depending on regional conditions. We get an update about once a month on what the carboard market is doing, for example.

    Everyone does that wants it as there is an index. NCC, OCC. It's now cheaper to avoid collecting OCC for export. I feel this will only be EBB for plastic until technology changes to be able to consume mass tonnages. I still don't see mixed moving offshore again any time soon.

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  • NTAN Online
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    Back on Aging: someone mentined having to get up to pee in the middle of the night. I now try to avoid any form of caffeine after 3PM and even stop water and other fluids after dinner. But at 4AM I'm still getting a kick from the bladder?

    Think I need to exercise more. In my 30s when I got fit, I don't remember having any issues sleeping through the night.

    Running is a lot harder I've found, even with the migraine-related issues I have on aerobic exercise these days. Fucking cholesterol meds are shit. My cardiologist is no fun - wants me on aspirin and statins the rest of my life because my old man carked it of heart disease*, but won't give me Cialis!

    *Even after I mentioned he was a 2-pack a day smoker and ate his own weight in red meat regularly.

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    replied to JC on last edited by
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    @JC said in Aging:

    One thing that I find makes me grumpier is the avalanche of stupid songs. Dance Monkey - WTF? Anything with autotune. Practically everything on high rotate on commercial radio - I know I'm hardly their target demographic but use some imagination you lazy pricks.

    there are a couple of songs playing on the radio now that i quite like...

    seriously outweighed by the mountains of utter shit though

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  • NTAN Online
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Aging:

    @JC said in Aging:

    One thing that I find makes me grumpier is the avalanche of stupid songs. Dance Monkey - WTF? Anything with autotune. Practically everything on high rotate on commercial radio - I know I'm hardly their target demographic but use some imagination you lazy pricks.

    there are a couple of songs playing on the radio now that i quite like...

    seriously outweighed by the mountains of utter shit though

    Can't listen to the radio any more. Loud dickheads and ads. Or politicians. Its a lose-lose.

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
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    @NTA said in Aging:

    @mariner4life said in Aging:

    @JC said in Aging:

    One thing that I find makes me grumpier is the avalanche of stupid songs. Dance Monkey - WTF? Anything with autotune. Practically everything on high rotate on commercial radio - I know I'm hardly their target demographic but use some imagination you lazy pricks.

    there are a couple of songs playing on the radio now that i quite like...

    seriously outweighed by the mountains of utter shit though

    Can't listen to the radio any more. Loud dickheads and ads. Or politicians. Its a lose-lose.

    my kids like it

    and the Spotify app on my phone keeps going to sleep after an upgrade which fucks me off. So radio it is.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Aging:

    @JC said in Aging:

    One thing that I find makes me grumpier is the avalanche of stupid songs. Dance Monkey - WTF? Anything with autotune. Practically everything on high rotate on commercial radio - I know I'm hardly their target demographic but use some imagination you lazy pricks.

    there are a couple of songs playing on the radio now that i quite like...

    seriously outweighed by the mountains of utter shit though

    I read a top 50 songs of the 2010s list and realised I didn't know at least 3/4's of the songs and half of them seemed to rappers with weird names that include symbols in them and tattoos all over their face. I guess I know how my Dad felt when I was listening to NWA and Public Enemy.

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