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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    I think what gets overlooked with Richmond is their system,

    Forget the individuals, obviously dusty is the rockstar , but when they get their game up and going it’s the collective team system that breaks teams down .

    This game was so identical to last years prelim v Geelong it was bizarre

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    @kiwiinmelb said in AFL 2020:

    I think what gets overlooked with Richmond is their system,

    Forget the individuals, obviously dusty is the rockstar , but when they get their game up and going it’s the collective team system that breaks teams down .

    This game was so identical to last years prelim v Geelong it was bizarre

    yeah so much this. when they are up and about, the opposition, no matter who it is, just don't seem to be able to do anything about them. They are a really really good team who are bloody well coached. I bet there are a lot of professional coaches who would love to find what ever switch it was that Hardwick was able to flick to suddenly elevate Ninethmond with a coach on the verge of the sack to a side that has been nigh-on untouchable for 4 years.

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    @mariner4life said in AFL 2020:

    @kiwiinmelb said in AFL 2020:

    I think what gets overlooked with Richmond is their system,

    Forget the individuals, obviously dusty is the rockstar , but when they get their game up and going it’s the collective team system that breaks teams down .

    This game was so identical to last years prelim v Geelong it was bizarre

    yeah so much this. when they are up and about, the opposition, no matter who it is, just don't seem to be able to do anything about them. They are a really really good team who are bloody well coached. I bet there are a lot of professional coaches who would love to find what ever switch it was that Hardwick was able to flick to suddenly elevate Ninethmond with a coach on the verge of the sack to a side that has been nigh-on untouchable for 4 years.

    I wonder if part of it was the players believing in the game plan and the switch flicking. I keep going back to All Blacks vs France in 2004.

    Part of the other reason is they're doing great work in talent identification and coaching in the lower grades. I think @kiwiinmelb made the point earlier that Richmond's VFL team plays the same way so players can step up and immediately know their role.

    I was surprised at how well they adapted in the final missing Soldo and then Vlastuin early to injury.

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    @mariner4life said in AFL 2020:

    @kiwiinmelb said in AFL 2020:

    I think what gets overlooked with Richmond is their system,

    Forget the individuals, obviously dusty is the rockstar , but when they get their game up and going it’s the collective team system that breaks teams down .

    This game was so identical to last years prelim v Geelong it was bizarre

    yeah so much this. when they are up and about, the opposition, no matter who it is, just don't seem to be able to do anything about them. They are a really really good team who are bloody well coached. I bet there are a lot of professional coaches who would love to find what ever switch it was that Hardwick was able to flick to suddenly elevate Ninethmond with a coach on the verge of the sack to a side that has been nigh-on untouchable for 4 years.

    It took a while for Richmond and Hardwick though. Some dark times and then the perennial 9th place jibes.

    So developing those young players, gaining a bit of success to leverage recruiting and confidence has all added to a well oiled machine.

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    I read this book back in 2017 , one of the kids gave it to me for Xmas , there was a major turning point in the 2017 pre season ,

    Rare insight into Richmond’s rare premiership

    Rare insight into Richmond’s rare premiership

    When Fairfax journalist Konrad Marshall embedded himself within the Richmond Football Club to write an inside account of the Tigers’ 2017 season, literally no-one could have dreamed he’d end up writing the story of one of the most remarkable premierships the game had seen.

    There was the game plan with the pressure and the surging forward with chaos , which at the time they came up with to suit their list , quick and small ,

    but there was a lot of off field stuff going on , and pretty simple stuff , dimma talks about the penny dropping while coaching his daughters basketball team , and that he had overcoached his players , taken away their flair and not allowed them to enjoy the game .
    He asked for input from the players , and they expressed how they would like to play and how they would like the club to be a fun place to go to work etc etc.
    There is lots more , lots of it is off field , they even stole stuff off the allblacks , sweeping out the sheds etc after the game etc

    From there they seemed to form a belief and bond that was previously missing

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    Today in the law of unintended consequences, the AFL's idea to allow clubs to develop young talent at a reduced cost is instead used by clubs to move veterans outside their cap

    I for one am excited to see what new, up and coming rookies Eddie Betts, Grant Birchall, and Jarrod Harbrow can do if given an opportunity to play this year.

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    so, Swans have parted ways with Elijah Taylor, hell of a roller coaster, given one of the most important numbe rin swans history, domestic abuse allegations and COVID breaches all in a couple of months

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    not worth a new thread yet

    Jon Patton gets busted being a bit creepy on social meda

    as night follows day, Jon Patton admitted to hospital for "mental health"

    come the fuck on

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    @mariner4life said in AFL 2020:

    not worth a new thread yet

    Jon Patton gets busted being a bit creepy on social meda

    as night follows day, Jon Patton admitted to hospital for "mental health"

    come the fuck on

    IMO and as an amateur psychologist ( 🙂 ) he's struggling to deal with failure after likely having smoke blown up his nether regions since he was a teenager with agents, clubs, girls etc chasing him since his teenage years.

    First time he's been told he can't do whatever he likes comes as a bit of shock to the young fulla.

    I expect it's not a healthy environment.

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    @mariner4life in no way do I underestimate mental health sickness and challenges but I thought the whole “respect privacy” with what has happened was a bit too convenient.

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    Eddie McGuire and Collingwood. wow.

    The report commissioned in to the culture at the club gets leaked. It's not good around the racisms. Eddie comes out in a presser and tries to spin it as a good day for the Club.

    Eddie McGuire is Australian sport's biggest flog. And that's a more loaded field than the Melbourne Cup. It appears that he has done something remarkable, and that is unite Collingwood fans and everyone else. Pretty much everyone thinks he's a fluffybunny today.

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    @mariner4life yeah, was very cringy listening too it and scary he doesn't seem to see the damage he does to the club

    considering his role in the whole adam goodes situation im really surprised he felt fronting it was a good move

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    It had parallels to me with Darren Lehmann after Sandpapergate.

    He saw the problem, and as a confident person he instantly thought he was the one who could fix it. But he was too close to it. It took time for it to sink in that as a part of the problem he couldn't be a part of the solution. He resigned a few days later.

    I think we might see the same here, although Eddie is as stubborn as they come so who knows.

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    @barbarian Eddie's due to go at the end of the year anyway, i wonder if that will influence any decision?

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    @mariner4life The question is if anyone at Collingwood has the power or the stones to tell him he should go now. As President he must be almost impossible to overthrow, unless there is some mass uprising by the membership.

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    @barbarian said in AFL 2021:

    unless there is some mass uprising by the membership.

    That would be an ugly sight.

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    @antipodean The Toothless Revolution

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    @antipodean said in AFL 2021:

    @barbarian said in AFL 2021:

    unless there is some mass uprising by the membership.

    That would be an ugly sight.

    I thought you meant metaphorically ugly, never nice seeing someone have to be kicked out and was going to comment its probably needed...and then it clicked 😉

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    Eddie vows to stick around for the remainder of the year and drive reforms that address the culture he oversaw for a generation. What a tone deaf clown.

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    @antipodean said in AFL 2021:

    Eddie vows to stick around for the remainder of the year and drive reforms that address the culture he oversaw for a generation. What a tone deaf clown.

    that's quite incredible isn't it?

    Even the pussies at AFL house gave them a whack. jesus.

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