RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Cane would have made a difference.
Also think he adds a lot in the leadership department - sadly lacking today.
Yeah, it's utter BS to pretend Cane wouldn't have made a difference when starting even if the result stayed the same - we have a much better chance of a win if he starts.
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@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
we have a much better chance of a win if he starts.
He's the glue in the low numbers
Bit like Ringo Starr's drumming. Underrated and it's only when someone else tries to play like him and can't, you realize how bloody good he actually is.
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Stages of loss:
Denial : that horse bolted after the 3rd aimless kick giving possession away with attacking ball in the opposition 40.
Anger: 78 minutes of that
Bargaining: why no repeat of Lions game one style?
Depression: not this time. No Wayne Barnes
Acceptance: yeah, the " three wise men" you ponce around for 3 years tinkering for the "next big thing", and on show night, you served up the most insipid All Black display in living memory !Bah!!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
we let Itoje just fucking kill us - seemed to be winning uncontested ball on their throw and getting up in front of our jumpers on ours -despite that we supposedly had four jumpers and they had two.
And we let that happen time and time again. Did we ever throw it to the front?
Sort of thing indicated lack of leadership.
Yeah - perhaps - but, the thing is that you want deep ball,if you can get it and throwing deep to Sam Whitelock is usually money-ball.
We just got skinned.
Out-muscled up front and their backs showed invention at least on a par with ours.
Just not good enough and to be honest, we don't have any players that would have made a difference tonight.
What we planned to do we couldn't execute.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
we have a much better chance of a win if he starts.
He's the glue in the low numbers
Bit like Ringo Starr's drumming. Underrated and it's only when someone else tries to play like him and can't, you realize how bloody good he actually is.
Thought Coles had a very good game when he came on.
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And continuing the trend of long-lost posters returning to the Fern...
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@Duluth "A disrespectful question", "If you want to go outside I'll give you a rugby education".
Shut the fuck up you arrogant prick. You lost, the team was shit, you wear it.
He has the tamest press in the world normally. Oh no, someone asked him if the All Blacks "turned up with the right mindset?" They didn't, they choked under the pressure.
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@Duluth said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
That was hard to watch.
Read’s obvious disappointment and hurt made me want them to stop asking him questions.Bad luck to the ABs. You ran into an England team that played the best I have seen from them in a decade or more.
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@The-Eagle said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.
PS good to see you fellas
Welcome back, even if briefly.
We haven't seen an ABs team schooled like that for a long time. Enjoy!
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@The-Eagle said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.
PS good to see you fellas
Let me guess you googled “mourning rugby tragics” and found your way back.
Congrats on the win mate.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Well done England and Eddie Jones. Very good execution to keep us out of the game.
What he said
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Well, I don't really feel too down - unlike 2007. Beaten by a far better team on the day. Still think we could have won it after Ardie scored but dumb penalties and mistakes stuffed up our chances.
Off to pull the swing-arm off the Suzuki and prep for a re-spray.
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@Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Duluth "A disrespectful question", "If you want to go outside I'll give you a rugby education".
Shut the fuck up you arrogant prick. You lost, the team was shit, you wear it.
He has the tamest press in the world normally. Oh no, someone asked him if the All Blacks "turned up with the right mindset?" They didn't, they choked under the pressure.
What the hell was that?
He had just said he asked them to get more desperate and hungrier at halftime. He has been pretty open in saying they haven't turned up with the right mindset in the past when they have been tipped over - as recently as Perth. We've lost RWC semi-finals on the back of not turning up mentally - 1999 being the obvious example.
Reasonable question - especially given the first two minutes. Crazy response - but in a way I like it in a way because all his other responses seem somewhat ambivalent.
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