RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
What's that got to do with Owen's explaining the card with " never onside" ?
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@antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.
Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.
Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question
I heard Owens say no arms tackle.
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@KiwiMurph was another pathetic no arms tackle/hit at the end of the 1st half....but he said he was also offside.
Neither penalty worthy, let alone a YC and PT.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.
Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question
I heard Owens say no arms tackle.
After he had stopped play for judging and explaining never onside. It was a poor piece of refereeing and use of tmo.
Watching the replay Owens was very poor but will escape scrutiny because the match was a one sided thrashing.
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
I'm loving the post match banter.
6 days to get back into shit-your-pants-about-England mode.
Losing to England wouldn’t be anywhere near as intolerable as losing to Ireland. Particularly if we didn’t deny Ireland their traditional quarter final exit
Yeah but nah. I will despise losing to England, they crow badly enough when they draw with us
Ireland has the worst fans in game , I’m not saying I’d be cool losing to the poms but losing to the Irish would be awful . Imagine the likes of BOD afterwards .
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@Siam yea he made some poor decisions by his standards, more akin to what I'd expect from Garces, fortunately none of them were game affecting, for us or them.
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@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
don't know how some of you guys manage to comment during the game,
I have my own personal Russian spambot
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@canefan
IIRC, Owens said Todd made no attempt to tackle or go for the ball. Obstruction? -
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan
IIRC, Owens said Todd made no attempt to tackle or go for the ball. Obstruction?At first there was the offside call and then towards the end of the back and forth he said Todd didn’t attempt to use arms or wrap.
So what is intriguing is if he overturned the offside call he made onfield after the replay?
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Siam yea he made some poor decisions by his standards, more akin to what I'd expect from Garces, fortunately none of them were game affecting, for us or them.
The neck roll incident on Ardie could have been serious if he wasn't such a meast. Compare that to the one Owens pinged us for, I defy any of these NH hacks to say we get all the calls
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The one thing Owens did a little better than Garces IMHO was police the offside line (either that or the Irish didn't try to push the limit as much as the English). It is heartening to note that we didn't get a lot of the calls go our way (I haven't seen an official penalty count but the second half seemed to go against us more often than not) and yet it didn't stop us from beating them down
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@Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan penalties v13-6, that for entire game
I assume we were 6?
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@Siam I hate how you can be part of a maul from the start, work your way through, end up on the side, nek minut you are pinged (think Ardie got done for one of them)
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Luigi said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.
Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question
I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.
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Watching the replay now, i hadn't appreciated how much depth the backs gave themselves. Stood deep on 1st phase and used lots of 2nd runners. Really added space from that quick defense.
Oh and Sam fucking Cane man, what a weapon.
Quick edit to give my myself a virtual uppercut for being one of those fuckwits who was carrying on about Read a few months back because he had "lost a yard of pace". What a Muppet. His transformation to this new tight(er) role has been amazing.
