RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Whitelock and Retallick and Read also at the peak of their powers
Cane is the unsung hero for me.
We don't play so well when he isn't there.
He destroys their momentum in attack. just a defensive weapon.
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@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
Fucking hell. Never happy aye?
I remember when Dan Carter got yellowed for a horrendous tackle against Wales and the Fern foamed endlessly at the mouth about the IRB (as was) conspiring with the illuminati, aliens, English rugby clubs and the man on the grassy knoll to besmirch his sainted name.
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Working this morning so missed the match.
It went as I predicted - congrats lads and all the best for the repeat.
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@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
We won 46-14, ref had nothing to do with it.
And yes, the worlds best ref.
I think he's suggesting that we'd have won by more if not for Nige's terrible refereeing
Terrible?
Luigi is spot on.
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@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
We won 46-14, ref had nothing to do with it.
And yes, the worlds best ref.
I think he's suggesting that we'd have won by more if not for Nige's terrible refereeing
Terrible?
Luigi is spot on.
Maybe not his best game, but Nigel was fine and reffed consistently, let the game flow and communicated well - as he always seems to do. Arguably the best Ref I've seen.
If we want decisions to be consistent across games, even when other refs aren't as good and make poor decisions on late or high tackles which wreck games, then so be it. Expect consistently poor reffing.
But I'd rather have a card-shy ref like Owens with his empathy with the players than a card-waving maniac any day.
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@Hooroo Lol - prolly on My Sky - or delayed on Prime catch up or whatever you have out there. Fitzy reckoned the first half was the nest rugby they;ve played in 10 years.....It was a good watch - you need to download!
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Some big moves have happened and you have to give credit to the TWM
The big movers are Laulala, Savea, Mounga, ALB and Barrett in his best position at fullbackMassive coaching calls in this team ,
It would’ve been easy to keep the side the way it was, that is what has worked in the recent past, stability.
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Watched the game again. I'm astounded Kieran Read wasn't MOTM. He was awesome. Defence a brick wall, and his carrying amazing - not CJ Stander style carrying, but into a gap and offload the ball type carrying. Best match since his heyday a few years back.
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Yep the first 20 mins of ABs v England and we'll find out just how good these new comers are. Bring it on.
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Some big moves have happened and you have to give credit to the TWM
The big movers are Laulala, Savea, Mounga, ALB and Barrett in his best position at fullbackThought it a brave call to pick an under-played Jack Goodhue for a crunch game - worked real well
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I'm really glad Schmidt is coming home, he has been in the NH far too long and it's just excuse after excuse.
First sentence out of his mouth is "I don't really have an excuse" then within five minutes has offered up:
- Short week
- Injuries in the camp.
- Reversed penalty before half time was wrong decision.
Fair play he is dissapointed, but it was the same thing after the Japan game.
You get the sense he knew Ireland didn't have the momentum going into the tournament or at least part way though it.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Blackheart said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
This was the most appalling match Nigel Owens has refereed....at least three yellows missed by head high and neck rolls by the Irish and the penalty try was absurd...Todd was hemmed in there against the post by an Irish player and couldn't get away even if he tried...lucky that wasn't a decision that could've effected the out come of the match. The world's best Ref?????
We won 46-14, ref had nothing to do with it.
And yes, the worlds best ref.
I think he's suggesting that we'd have won by more if not for Nige's terrible refereeing
Terrible?
Luigi is spot on.
Maybe not his best game, but Nigel was fine and reffed consistently, let the game flow and communicated well - as he always seems to do. Arguably the best Ref I've seen.
If we want decisions to be consistent across games, even when other refs aren't as good and make poor decisions on late or high tackles which wreck games, then so be it. Expect consistently poor reffing.
But I'd rather have a card-shy ref like Owens with his empathy with the players than a card-waving maniac any day.
Matt Todd ???
Owen's caught on Mic "super sizing" an offside yellow card with a no arms "deal". Was pretty shabby from a great ref
I agree with the assessment that Owen's is a top level ref but yesterday he was off with his methodology. The ruck entries and disruptions weren't up to scratch, and the goal line reffing of defenders was inconsistent. He reminded me of a teacher having a lazy day.
Nothing wrong with acknowledging a patchy performance amongst his legacy of excellence
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@SynicBast said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@SynicBast said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Jesus, that's a massive call - 2015 we had the two best rugby players of all time and at least three other all time great All Blacks!
McCaw, Carter GOATs
Nonu-Smith - GOAT Midfield combination with Nonu arguably being the GOAT of all NZ 12s
Kev and Myth - all time great ABsKaino...?
I knew I missed one name - I plead dealing with an irish friend who had the gall to say Nigel favoured the ABs tonight
13-6 penalties in their favour, plus a made up yellow card. That's what we need to work on next game, discipline, along with making sure the team can mentally get up after that performance
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Pretty good run out there, thought the start was the key, had their foot on the throat and never removed.
That PT yellow was absurd, claiming Todd was off side (doesn't have to go further behind the line)
Thought Owens fine otherwise, the double penalty at half time was odd...Read has tackled the guy that was bound to the ball carrier...then that shoulder, FFS talk about looking for something...dumb by the Irish guy in the current climate but gee there was nothing in it.
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That was comfortably the worst reffing performance I've seen from Owens, culminating in the YC and penalty try which could have cost us the game in a tight one. I'm astounded anyone thinks he was fine, he had completely lost the plot at that point.
That said, I still firmly believe he's the best ref in the world so hope he takes stock and learns from his errors as I'd prefer he refs the semi/final than any of the others.
Refs have off days too, it's fine to admit that.
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@No-Quarter Yep agree 1000%
