RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D)
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Biggar out of Uruguay match. Failed HIA
Looks like he was going to be rested anyway.
Parkes, Liam Williams and Hallam Amos in the frame as back up to Patchell.
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"Skeeny"
"Yes Jerome?"
"Onfield decision is no try, clear forward pass, can you confirm?"
"Yes, Jerome, there is a clear forward pass"
"Ok, scrum..."
"Jerome?"
"Yes, Skeeny"
"I have a picture of a clear forward pass to show you"
(shows clear forward pass)
"Ok, scrum..."
"Jerome?"
"Yes, Skeeny?"
"I have another picture to show you of the clear forward pass"
(shows clear forward pass, angle 2)
"Ok, scrum..."
"Jerome?"
"Yes, Skeeny?"
"I have a split screen angle to show you of the clear forward pass"
(shows clear forward pass, angle 3)
"Good work everybody, ok scrum, clear forward pass" -
"Skeeny!"
"Yes, Jerome!"
"Skeeny!"
"Yes Jerome!"
"Skeeny!"
"Yes Jerome! Harder, faster!" -
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
I’m still baffled by the TMO forward pass call when they were checking for an early tackle and not a try scoring play.
That makes no coherent sense for how a game should flow.
I think we can accept that forward passes are missed in general play (I think it even happened once in 2007 legend tells me), but why is it that something that is only a minor infringement (scrum) given greater scrutiny then full arm penalty infringements. I think we accept that full arm penalty infringements are missed but why aren’t TMO’s looking at that if they are going to the trouble of looking at that when called on to look at other matters.
Is there a specific directive that I’m unaware of that was given to TMOs and onfield refs that says they must be looking at forward passes in all instances
Yes. It's there in case Barnes is reffing.
As for the forward pass vs penalty thing, surely foul play (which a tackle off the ball is) trumps previous infringement? Let's say that there was a high tackle contact with the head after the forward pass. They would have to issue a card but this is saying that the restart would come back to the scrum. So there would be a card but no penalty? That's weird.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
Drew Mitchell and FOX Sports vs Skeen
Watch Drew Mitchell and FOX Sports vs Skeen - WALFIJ | Streamable
Watch "Drew Mitchell and FOX Sports vs Skeen - WALFIJ" on Streamable.
Drew is bang on. Skeen needs to be sent home.
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Had no answer earlier and watched the incident back.
How was James Davies offside from the clearing kick which led to the line out for the first Fiji try?
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@antipodean said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
Drew Mitchell and FOX Sports vs Skeen
Watch "Drew Mitchell and FOX Sports vs Skeen - WALFIJ" on Streamable.
Drew is bang on. Skeen needs to be sent home.
God, imagine him being unleashed on a Heartland Championship game (think the semis and finals are televised live)!
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
How was James Davies offside from the clearing kick which led to the line out for the first Fiji try?
Maybe I'm looking at a different incident? He was at least 10m in front of the kicker and moved forward as soon as the ball was kicked
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@Higgins said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
@antipodean said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
Drew Mitchell and FOX Sports vs Skeen
Watch "Drew Mitchell and FOX Sports vs Skeen - WALFIJ" on Streamable.
Drew is bang on. Skeen needs to be sent home.
God, imagine him being unleashed on a Heartland Championship game (think the semis and finals are televised live)!
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
I’m still baffled by the TMO forward pass call when they were checking for an early tackle and not a try scoring play.
That makes no coherent sense for how a game should flow.
I think we can accept that forward passes are missed in general play (I think it even happened once in 2007 legend tells me), but why is it that something that is only a minor infringement (scrum) given greater scrutiny then full arm penalty infringements. I think we accept that full arm penalty infringements are missed but why aren’t TMO’s looking at that if they are going to the trouble of looking at that when called on to look at other matters.
Is there a specific directive that I’m unaware of that was given to TMOs and onfield refs that says they must be looking at forward passes in all instances
i made the same point, we now have one infringement that now appears to trump all others (and which is pretty dubious to check given camera angles "clear forward pass" my ass). And we have a TMO taking over the game. And we have instances where forward passes are looked at, and when they aren't. It's an absolute shambles, and either Skeen is stepping way over the mark, or this TMO thing has descended into a complete farce, and rugby as we know it has been fundamentally changed.
Also, that first half yesterday took 54 minutes. 14 extra minutes on a 40 minute period. That's a fucking disgrace.
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
I’m still baffled by the TMO forward pass call when they were checking for an early tackle and not a try scoring play.
That makes no coherent sense for how a game should flow.
I think we can accept that forward passes are missed in general play (I think it even happened once in 2007 legend tells me), but why is it that something that is only a minor infringement (scrum) given greater scrutiny then full arm penalty infringements. I think we accept that full arm penalty infringements are missed but why aren’t TMO’s looking at that if they are going to the trouble of looking at that when called on to look at other matters.
Is there a specific directive that I’m unaware of that was given to TMOs and onfield refs that says they must be looking at forward passes in all instances
i made the same point, we now have one infringement that now appears to trump all others (and which is pretty dubious to check given camera angles "clear forward pass" my ass). And we have a TMO taking over the game. And we have instances where forward passes are looked at, and when they aren't. It's an absolute shambles, and either Skeen is stepping way over the mark, or this TMO thing has descended into a complete farce, and rugby as we know it has been fundamentally changed.
Also, that first half yesterday took 54 minutes. 14 extra minutes on a 40 minute period. That's a fucking disgrace.
Only one more minute required for Skeen's desired 15 minutes of fame then?
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Thought YC for the Fijian for off side was rough.
I know wrong end of the field, repeated penalties, but 10 mins later a welshman did the same thing mid field and wasnt pulled up at all.
If you gonna ping for off side, you ping them all, don't pick and choose which to blow.
Has there been any official word on the TMO scope, as it appears the TMO is free to just offer up stuff when he feels like it, rather than previously they had to be asked to check by ref.
Man those Fijians are great to watch though, a bit more smarts and discipline and they would be a real force.
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@taniwharugby Throw in a half decent first five and watch them go!
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
Thought YC for the Fijian for off side was rough.
I know wrong end of the field, repeated penalties, but 10 mins later a welshman did the same thing mid field and wasnt pulled up at all.
If you gonna ping for off side, you ping them all, don't pick and choose which to blow.
Has there been any official word on the TMO scope, as it appears the TMO is free to just offer up stuff when he feels like it, rather than previously they had to be asked to check by ref.
Man those Fijians are great to watch though, a bit more smarts and discipline and they would be a real force.
More about field position and repeated warnings from the ref.
Surprised they didn't have a look at the tackle by Fiji 5 on AWJ which rang his bell.
Looked a clear shoulder to the head to me.
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@Duluth said in RWC: Wales v Fiji (Pool D):
@Crucial Yeah he was the most offside, a few others could've been penalised too
So when the ball is kicked and cleared from a ruck with the kicker inside his own deadball and way behind his teammates, and the ball doesn't go dead how long do his teammates have to wait before they can advance?
