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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.

    Give it up ffs.

    The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.

    He got it wrong.

    He was suitably punished.

    It's not that difficult.

    I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.

    It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.

    Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.

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    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Bones I don’t care. It’s a stupid system.

    No. No it's not.

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    @booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MrDenmore bullshit. That's a red card for as long as I've been playing.

    See. 🙂

    Not that long...

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    @Bones Well good for you Bones. I’m sure you’ll be there at the end cheering on as referees, paranoid about losing their jobs, hand red cards out like parking tickets. What a spectacle, eh?

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    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Bones Well good for you Bones. I’m sure you’ll be there at the end cheering on as referees, paranoid about losing their jobs, hand red cards out like parking tickets. What a spectacle, eh?

    You're wrong.

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    @Quo-vadis said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    Red card , should be 10mins likes yellow, but a that player is ejected (and off the judiciary) and a replacement can come on 10mins later.
    Red cards ruin the game.

    So don't act like a fucking psycho on the field and get sent off.

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    @Anonymous said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Bones I don’t care. It’s a stupid system.

    Haha sure it is. Lavanini should have been commended.

    I'm surprised that Nigel Owens didn't count the fact it was on Owen Farrell as a mitigating factor 🤷♂

    This though 🙂

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    @Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.

    Give it up ffs.

    The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.

    He got it wrong.

    He was suitably punished.

    It's not that difficult.

    I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.

    It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.

    Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.

    This is the problem with modern life.

    Let's look at the effect, not the cause.

    This is very simple to eradicate.

    Start your tackle at the waist.

    This is about poor tackling technique.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

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    @Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.

    Give it up ffs.

    The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.

    He got it wrong.

    He was suitably punished.

    It's not that difficult.

    I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.

    It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.

    Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.

    What the hell is this? Are you another wanting penalties removed from the game? Knock ons should be play on? We wouldn't want to punish a team for the actions of a player! It's a fricken team game.

    The problem isn't the cards.

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    I thought the Red Card was fair.

    England playing well. Disciplined,slick and athletic outfit. I could easily see them winning the competition.

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    @booboo Yes, I’m sure it was a send-off in your day when you were playing for the St Peter’s under-15s. But this is professional sport at the highest level. It’s big business. You just can’t have a game destroyed as a spectacle because one player made a high tackle. I’m sorry, but this is just commercial reality. You can argue about it all you want. But you need to separate out your undoubted and admirable love for the the sport and its status as paid entertainment. There are sanctions available for foul play. They are monetary.

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    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Bones It’s a stupid system, OK? The NFL alllows unlimited substitutions. Punish the player afterwards, as hard as is necessary. Deprive them of income. But don’t punish the entire team. And DON’T punish the paying public. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. It’s a business. It’s about putting bums on seats.

    Bollocks. You act as a fuckwit as part of a team your team suffers. Be a team player.

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    Now Marler carrying on trying to start a fight...

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    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.

    Bullshit. Sue Lavinini

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    @MrDenmore Hey now I played for the St Peter's under 15s back in the day....

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    @sparky said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    I thought the Red Card was fair.

    England playing well. Disciplined,slick and athletic outfit. I could easily see them winning the competition.

    You had me at the first part.

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    @booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Bones It’s a stupid system, OK? The NFL alllows unlimited substitutions. Punish the player afterwards, as hard as is necessary. Deprive them of income. But don’t punish the entire team. And DON’T punish the paying public. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. It’s a business. It’s about putting bums on seats.

    Bollocks. You act as a fuckwit as part of a team your team suffers. Be a team player.

    The only issue with the current system is, if you're a fuckwit in the 1st minute your team suffers for 79 minutes, but if it's the 80th minute it's only for 1 minute.

    Fuckwits need equality! 🙋🏻♂

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    @MiketheSnow An extension of your argument. Don’t cheat on your tax returns (but people do). The fact is the incentives in professional sport are now at a level that players are going to break laws to win. It’s why Lance Armstrong won all those Tours de France denying he was drug enhanced when he was. It’s money that drives players at this level to infringe. Rugby wants to pretend it’s still an amateur sport. It isn’t. It’s big business. I’m not arguing that players should be put in peril for our entertainment. But. I’m saying if the sanctions system destroys the game as spectacle, the money won’t flow. Kearns is right. It will kill the sport.

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    @Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.

    Give it up ffs.

    The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.

    He got it wrong.

    He was suitably punished.

    It's not that difficult.

    I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.

    It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.

    Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.

    What the hell is this? Are you another wanting penalties removed from the game? Knock ons should be play on? We wouldn't want to punish a team for the actions of a player! It's a fricken team game.

    The problem isn't the cards.

    You’re being totally ridiculous now.

    The point is red cards get dished out every second or third game nowadays, so do we really want to see 1/3 of rugby games decided by red cards?

    I don’t, and I suspect thousands of other people don’t. People will stop watching, simple as that.

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    @Anonymous said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @booboo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):

    @Bones It’s a stupid system, OK? The NFL alllows unlimited substitutions. Punish the player afterwards, as hard as is necessary. Deprive them of income. But don’t punish the entire team. And DON’T punish the paying public. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. It’s a business. It’s about putting bums on seats.

    Bollocks. You act as a fuckwit as part of a team your team suffers. Be a team player.

    The only issue with the current system is, if you're a fuckwit in the 1st minute your team suffers for 79 minutes, but if it's the 80th minute it's only for 1 minute.

    Fuckwits need equality! 🙋🏻♂

    80th minute = lesser spotted fuckwit.

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