RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D)
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
I think hodge is fine. Would not like to see that red carded. He clearly tries to wrap left arm and he didn’t deliberately lead with shoulder. Just bad luck. And those whining...would you be happy to lose an AB for that?
If there is any whining it is about the so called clear directives that are getting applied haphazardly.
My complaint is that we lose a player for a mistimed challenge yet in other games it is “OK”.
WR even made videos to explain their (IMO) quite hard ruling directive yet their employees seemingly didn’t watch them.
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Hodge cited. He’s gone I’d say for at least the pool games.
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Disciplinary update: Reece Hodge (Australia)
Australia winger Reece Hodge has been cited by John Montgomery (Scotland) for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (dangerous tackle) in the 25th minute of Australia’s Rugby World Cup 2019 Pool D match against Fiji on 21 September. Hodge will attend a hearing before an independent judicial committee chaired by Nigel Hampton, QC (New Zealand), former international coach Frank Hadden (Scotland) and former referee José Luis Rolandi (Argentina). The hearing will take place in Tokyo with the date and time to be confirmed shortly.
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
I think hodge is fine. Would not like to see that red carded. He clearly tries to wrap left arm and he didn’t deliberately lead with shoulder. Just bad luck. And those whining...would you be happy to lose an AB for that?
Happy? No
Understanding? Accepting? Yes -
I've just seen that Hodge incident. That's bullshit. In real speed that's absolutely nothing.
Rugby is fucked. Grow a pair you fairies
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
I've just seen that Hodge incident. That's bullshit. In real speed that's absolutely nothing.
Rugby is fucked. Grow a pair you fairies
Wake up and smell the 21st century FFS - you can carry on with that shit if you want rugby to get sued to oblivion in a few years
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@Machpants said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
@mariner4life said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
I've just seen that Hodge incident. That's bullshit. In real speed that's absolutely nothing.
Rugby is fucked. Grow a pair you fairies
Wake up and smell the 21st century FFS - you can carry on with that shit if you want rugby to get sued to oblivion in a few years
You can grow a set too
Play rugby, get hit in the head. What constitutes foul play has been lost in a desperate attempt to stave off the lawyers.
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@mariner4life you've obviously taken a few
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So you really think that was foul play and worth a couple of weeks?
Really?
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It wasn't a bad tackle outcome that forced the Fijian from the field, it was an act of foul play.
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@antipodean said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
It wasn't a bad tackle outcome that forced the Fijian from the field, it was an act of foul play.
I disagree
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
@antipodean said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
It wasn't a bad tackle outcome that forced the Fijian from the field, it was an act of foul play.
I disagree
I tend to agree with you but we need a lot more consistency in the rulings.
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
So you really think that was foul play and worth a couple of weeks?
Really?
A shoulder charge to the head that forced a player from the field?
Yes, really.
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
I've just seen that Hodge incident. That's bullshit. In real speed that's absolutely nothing.
OK, you made me go and watch it again.
I reckon you're dead set wrong fella. The tackle is an example of what the game is trying to iron out - basically a shoulder with no grasping to the head, that caused someone to leave the field. It ticks all the boxes (and the effect isn't even a goddamn box).
The precedent is there; ScoBa is a red, that's a red, SBW gets a red, Devin Toner gets a red, everyone gets a red! It may not be what you want the game to be, but it's sure as shit what they are trying to achieve.
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That said, I have some sympathy for the match officials. Hard to see in real time
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@mariner4life said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
I've just seen that Hodge incident. That's bullshit. In real speed that's absolutely nothing.
Rugby is fucked. Grow a pair you fairies
Plenty of tries on the scoreboard that aren't tries in real time as well. Yes, slowing down the action can make it look worse but that doesn't change the fact that it happened.
Dangerous play isn't just foul play (which implies intent) either. It can be careless, reckless or high risk as well.
Hodge (like SB) took a split second risk of trying to effect a stop when he wasn't in a good position to do so and the consequence was contact to another player's head that caused brain injury. That isn't just 'get over it you softies' anymore. Evidence has confirmed the incidence of long term effects of brain injuries so trying to tell players not to be reckless, careless or take risks when in these situations is the sensible thing to do.
If players can make split second decisions on plenty of other on field actions they can add this one into the mixEdit: if it helps, you are firmly in the Phil Kearns camp.
Former Wallabies hooker Phil Kearns has slammed the decision to cite Australian wing Reece Hodge for a dangerous tackle as "the biggest load of tripe that we have seen in world rugby for a long time".
"Reece didn't have time to get his arms up properly."Good one Phil.
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Seems I am mistaken. No worries.
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@MrDenmore said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):
It makes Scott Barrett’s shoulder on Hooper, where no one was injured, look like a cuddle in comparison.
It really doesn't.