AB RWC squad
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I was thinking last night if the Jacobson picked in part because of his use as a squad member and how he trains. The stories about McCaw coming into the Canterbury side and being a pest against his fellow loosies are legendary; I wonder if Jacobson is wired a bit that way too.
It's a long tournament, lots of training sessions, an otherwise fairly experienced set of loosies. Perhaps having someone who is going to be fizzing all tournament is worth more to them than whatever injury permutations may or may not eventuate. It does seem from all reports that Jacobson is wired in a similar way.
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@rotated said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
I was thinking last night if the Jacobson picked in part because of his use as a squad member and how he trains. The stories about McCaw coming into the Canterbury side and being a pest against his fellow loosies are legendary; I wonder if Jacobson is wired a bit that way too.
It's a long tournament, lots of training sessions, an otherwise fairly experienced set of loosies. Perhaps having someone who is going to be fizzing all tournament is worth more to them than whatever injury permutations may or may not eventuate. It does seem from all reports that Jacobson is wired in a similar way.
Really? This is the first I'm hearing of this legend (but I'm hardly a Canta-phile so easier for me to miss it than others). Hope Jacobson doesn't go a bit overboard like Ron Williams and Andy Earl in 1989.
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@Siam said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
Ummm well done Owen. Quite a fall from grace but by feck you were a rock for about a decade and never once showed off or sought an undue spotlight. Stoic, silent and strong is how we like our props and you were bloody good for a long time.
Well done young man, and thanks
One of my favourite ever All Blacks, utterly devoted to his teammates and the jersey. A man of few words but he made them count. Very strong in body and mind.
I love the story that he celebrated the 2011 RWC win by going for a weights session the next day. On his wedding day, he had a protein shake in his jacket pocket so be could stick to his nutrition schedule.
A fantastic Rugby player and a Great All Black.
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From a South African newspaper article titled "Vulnerable All Blacks gamble on Retallick"
It might be a sign of how vulnerable the All Blacks are that they have chosen to take the injured Brodie Retallick to Rugby World Cup 2019 in Japan even though he might not play for another six weeks.Retallick‚ the 77-Test veteran and former World Player of the Year‚ sustained a dislocated shoulder playing against the Springboks in Wellington last month and has been in a race to be fit for the showpiece.
But All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen named him in the 31-man squad on Wednesday as New Zealand aim to win a fourth title and a third in row.
Retallick’s value to the All Black cause cannot be underestimated.
When he has played for the All Blacks‚ they have won 69 of the 77 Tests he has played with four draws and four losses for a 90% winning ratio.
In all‚ the All Blacks have played 100 Tests since Retallick made his debut.
Of the other 23 Tests they have played without Retallick they have lost five – a 78% winning ratio.The defending champions have endured a mediocre build-up to the tournament‚ drawing 16-16 with the Boks in Wellington and losing 47-26 to the Wallabies in Perth.
By All Black standards results and performances have been sub-standard.
Retallick is massively influential figure and Hansen has gambled on the 28-year-old being fit for the knockout stages from October 19.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
From a South African newspaper article titled "Vulnerable All Blacks gamble on Retallick"
It might be a sign of how vulnerable the All Blacks are that they have chosen to take the injured Brodie Retallick to Rugby World Cup 2019 in Japan even though he might not play for another six weeks.Retallick‚ the 77-Test veteran and former World Player of the Year‚ sustained a dislocated shoulder playing against the Springboks in Wellington last month and has been in a race to be fit for the showpiece.
But All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen named him in the 31-man squad on Wednesday as New Zealand aim to win a fourth title and a third in row.
Retallick’s value to the All Black cause cannot be underestimated.
When he has played for the All Blacks‚ they have won 69 of the 77 Tests he has played with four draws and four losses for a 90% winning ratio.
In all‚ the All Blacks have played 100 Tests since Retallick made his debut.
Of the other 23 Tests they have played without Retallick they have lost five – a 78% winning ratio.The defending champions have endured a mediocre build-up to the tournament‚ drawing 16-16 with the Boks in Wellington and losing 47-26 to the Wallabies in Perth.
By All Black standards results and performances have been sub-standard.
Retallick is massively influential figure and Hansen has gambled on the 28-year-old being fit for the knockout stages from October 19.
That’s the talk of genuine favourites right there.
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@ACT-Crusader statistically, assuming we beat Tonga we will then have won 3/5 games, which is well down on our average, meaning statistically, we should win all our pool games and still be under the sans-BBBR figure of 7/9, then if he is back from the 1/4s, means we will win the RWC to still be below our winning % with him at 10/12...
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@canefan said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
I don't think we totally appreciate how hard it is to replace so many legendary players. Any other team in the world loses all time greats like GOAT, DC, Nonu and Snake, and Kevvie, would be poked for a whole cup cycle. We go into the cup with a strong win % over the last 4 years and are one of the favorites again
That said, there are a few blips that we didn't like in teh last four years.
- Losing 2x to Ireland
- Loss and draw to BIL
- Losing to Aus
- Loss and draw to SA
Mind you, our record since the last RWC is 38-2-4. We'lll take it for sure
Compared to the last cycle, where we were 49-2-3, losing to SA, Aus, England (and 2 draws with Aus), it's pretty similar (alghouth more matches played)
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@nzzp said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
@canefan said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
I don't think we totally appreciate how hard it is to replace so many legendary players. Any other team in the world loses all time greats like GOAT, DC, Nonu and Snake, and Kevvie, would be poked for a whole cup cycle. We go into the cup with a strong win % over the last 4 years and are one of the favorites again
That said, there are a few blips that we didn't like in teh last four years.
- Losing 2x to Ireland
- Loss and draw to BIL
- Losing to Aus
- Loss and draw to SA
Mind you, our record since the last RWC is 38-2-4. We'lll take it for sure
Compared to the last cycle, where we were 49-2-3, losing to SA, Aus, England (and 2 draws with Aus), it's pretty similar (alghouth more matches played)
First loss to the Irish was *, on a narrow field. The draw to the BIL also has a *, a deal is a deal mon ami
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@nzzp said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
Compared to the last cycle, where we were 49-2-3, losing to SA, Aus, England (and 2 draws with Aus), it's pretty similar (alghouth more matches played)
Ooops, that included the RWC. So probably more like 42-2-3 and surprisingly similar.
How high are our standards? 3-4 losses in 4 years and we're grizzly
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@nzzp said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
How high are our standards? 3-4 losses in 4 years and we're grizzly
Yep. A high bar has been set for well over 100 years.
I think the nature of the wins (and losses) over the last couple of years generates the angst, as well as who they were against (Ireland).
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I love these type of stories, as the life of a professional rugby player seems to be in 4 yr cycles now.
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@Wally said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
I remember watching Nepo playing club footy when he was about 20. Mike Cron ( who I know) stopped for a chat. I said that young tighthead looks ok. He replied: too small will never make it.
proof Mike Cron knows fuck all!!!
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@Bovidae my son watched the piece on the news last night about him, so was then stoked to meet him today at Okara Park (esp as my son plays prop too)
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@taniwharugby Ah, that's right. The ABs are touring the country today.
I see Cane, Moli, Jacobson, ALB and Weber were at Hinuera school.
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@Bovidae said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
@taniwharugby Ah, that's right. The ABs are touring the country today.
I see Cane, Moli, Jacobson, ALB and Weber were at Hinuera school.
Oh man!! That's where I live!
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