AB RWC squad
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@reprobate said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
@SammyC said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
I think Jordie will be on the bench for the big games.
If it's tight and we need a 50 metre penalty goal he's the only one in the squad capable.
If it's tight he's the guy most likely to make a game losing clanger from where I'm sitting.
For some reason I see Sam Cane dropping a ball as we’re building towards a game saving/winning try in the dying minutes of a knock out game....
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@ACT-Crusader cos Matt Todd?
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@pakman said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
When does SouthernMan release the team?
It’s 8pm in Perth, I’ll give him 4 hours or else he’s banned.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
@ACT-Crusader cos Matt Todd?
Nothing to do with Todd. I just get nervous when he’s passed the ball. In saying that I’ve had the same nervousness with McCaw circa 02-03, Nonu pre-08
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Be careful, man!
My impression is TWM know where they're going on LH, and given the squad the implication is Moli in.
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Does anyone else think LS should be told to go jump?
Not sure what it does for team moral if he picks up the phone and says « I might just play for the ABs after all » and bam straight into the RWC squad. Sends out a weird message to whichever loose forward misses out.
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@ACT-Crusader well given your history, of you know, more Cantabs makes for a better AB team....was only tongue in cheek comment anyway
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
Does anyone else think LS should be told to go jump?
Not sure what it does for team moral if he picks up the phone and says « I might just play for the ABs after all » and bam straight into the RWC squad. Sends out a weird message to whichever loose forward misses out.
Depends what the circumstances are, and whether everyone knows what the circumstances are, and whether the coaches have outlined to the other contenders that they'll pick him if he's available?
I have no idea what they are, but let say he has a sick child (say terminally ill), I think most people involved in the ABs camp would be sympathetic to him taking time out and figuring out whether he's up to it. But, I repeat, I have no idea of circumstances are and maybe if they're not serious then he should be told to go jump.
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@Nepia said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
Does anyone else think LS should be told to go jump?
Not sure what it does for team moral if he picks up the phone and says « I might just play for the ABs after all » and bam straight into the RWC squad. Sends out a weird message to whichever loose forward misses out.
Depends what the circumstances are, and whether everyone knows what the circumstances are, and whether the coaches have outlined to the other contenders that they'll pick him if he's available?
I have no idea what they are, but let say he has a sick child (say terminally ill), I think most people involved in the ABs camp would be sympathetic to him taking time out and figuring out whether he's up to it. But, I repeat, I have no idea of circumstances are and maybe if they're not serious then he should be told to go jump.
Considering how Shag was with players who displayed less than full loyalty to the cause (Piatau, Luatua), I can only assume whatever is going on with Liam he has a mighty good excuse for them to cut him slack
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@canefan said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
Considering how Shag was with players who displayed less than full loyalty to the cause (Piatau, Luatua)
Piutau left after missing out on a RWC squad. It was a very close call. He wasn't left out because he about to leave.
Hansen made comments about Luatua signing overseas without contacting the NZR first. The problem is Hansen was lying or there was a massive communication breakdown on the NZR/Hansen side
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@Duluth said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
@canefan said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
Considering how Shag was with players who displayed less than full loyalty to the cause (Piatau, Luatua)
Piutau left after missing out on a RWC squad. It was a very close call. He wasn't left out because he about to leave.
Hansen made comments about Luatua signing overseas without contacting the NZR first. The problem is Hansen was lying or there was a massive communication breakdown on the NZR/Hansen side
@Duluth said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
@canefan said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
Considering how Shag was with players who displayed less than full loyalty to the cause (Piatau, Luatua)
Piutau left after missing out on a RWC squad. It was a very close call. He wasn't left out because he about to leave.
Hansen made comments about Luatua signing overseas without contacting the NZR first. The problem is Hansen was lying or there was a massive communication breakdown on the NZR/Hansen side
No he said he was heading overseas after verbally telling the NZRU he was staying...then he was left out of the RWC squad.
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Yeah I forgot the order of the Piutau one
The Luatua situation was the one where the player did nothing wrong. Alerted the NZR that he had an offer, got no response and then Hansen made incorrect statements about him in the press.
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@Duluth said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
I disagree. Hansen isn't coach next year and it's position that is weak.
I think the second statement there is now up for debate.
I'm much less concerned after last weekend, where I felt the back row was excellent. Yes, one swallow does not a summer make (arguable!), but if that is our preferred combo and Barrett plays there as well, I think our situation is not as bad as it's made out to be.
Make no mistake though, if Lutatua was in the country, Im sure he'd be one of the first picked...
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@pakman said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
Be careful, man!
My impression is TWM know where they're going on LH, and given the squad the implication is Moli in.
That said, the article would suggest that against Namibia Ta'Avao will ride the pine as back up to Ofa at LH???!!!
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@Duluth said in RWC squad. Who's in, who's out?:
I disagree. Hansen isn't coach next year and it's position that is weak.
Assuming whatever it is was significant enough to keep him out of the squad so far this year, surely if it continues it's going to have an effect on his game and I'm not particularly sure a somewhat diminished Squire solves much of anything at 6.
Maybe the best course of action is leave him at home knowing he is first cab off the rank etc?
Based on Shag's previous selections it's likely less about him begging or trying to convince Squire and it's more about him saying "If you tell me you are up to it we will pick you and back you 100%, but if you aren't that is OK and we will give you every chance to get there".
