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    @sparky said in Bledisloe #1:

    @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #1:

    Ben Smith looking shit on the wing...again....

    Sad to see such a great old war horse play so poorly, but he was utter shite this evening. Time to put in the younger guys who are faster and hungry for success.

    Would like his experience on the bench though, covering 15-13

    So I'd expect Hansen to pick him at 13 for the injured Goodhue then....

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    @Chris-B Thought Mo'unga wasn't that bad either but like you said, can we afford to have three smallish and relatively weak defenders in Smith, Barrett and Mo'unga. I don't think we can, especially when the pack is showing fuck all physical presence.

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    @Mokey said in Bledisloe #1:

    It is actually alarming that we are playing so badly. No gameplan, poor discipline, terrible handling...Aussies are outplaying us everywhere.

    Less time on the PR trail and more back to basics, me thinks.

    Absolutely nails it. Key thing is to remember how much this shameful, disgusting performance hurt and lear from it.

    The ABs have spent too much much time believing their own legend and being piston wristed gibbons in public about it. Time to work very, very hard indeed on the basics of catch, pass, defend, push, kick and run.

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    @sparky said in Bledisloe #1:

    Sad to see such a great old war horse play so poorly, but he was utter shite this evening. Time to put in the younger guys who are faster and hungry for success.

    He wasn't good

    Q: When was the last time he played well?
    2 Test matches ago against Argentina

    Q: What was different?
    He was at fullback

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    @Duluth If he goes to the RWC it is as a fullback who can play midfield in an emergency. Doesn't have the gas now to play Wing at International level.

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    @sparky a fullback playing centre in a RWC. Sounds like a solid plan.

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    @sparky

    I'm sure he'll be going to the RWC

    I still think he's the best fullback in the world. Play him there.

    Wing has not worked.

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    @sparky said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Duluth If he goes to the RWC it is as a fullback who can play midfield in an emergency. Doesn't have the gas now to play Wing at International level.

    Don't think he should be anywhere near the midfield except in dire emergency.

    I'm pretty sure he started 7 games on the right wing for the ABs last year and only 5 at fullback, so he might not be a completely spent force on the wing.

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    Hansen and Read reckon the biggest lesson to take out from this game is their ill discipline. It's been bad for the last two years guys, can't believe you haven't learned that lesson by now.

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    If this same team turns up next week and beats the piss out of the Wallabies I will be even more fucked off.

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    @akan004 said in Bledisloe #1:

    @hydro11 said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Mokey said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Kirwan That is seriously scary. It's hard to remember when they last played such a terrible all round game to the point of screwing up the basics like ball retention and not kicking it away all the time. Add in shite discipline...and yeah.

    We have played much worse games than this IMO. The win against Argentina was a worse performance for sure.

    Don't think the defence was as poor in that game.

    The ARG game has been ABs best performance this year to date
    Their defence was exceptional 90% tackles made and saved 2-3 certain tries for Pumas

    Despite all the back slaps Boks got for their game vs ABs
    They were clueless in attack & never looked liked scoring for 79 mins

    Bit of magic from Kolbe & A Smith clocking off in defence led to their only try

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    @Stargazer said in Bledisloe #1:

    Ah, another TSF meltdown. Everyone completely overreacting as usual.

    I would argue that we have been under-reacting for the past year as the coaches have served up dross in game after game. The side really hasn't been the same since Wayne Smith left.

    Today's performance was worse than dross. It's where arrogance leads you. Mickey Mouse Hansen should be ashamed.

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    @mariner4life #powderdry #except4EP

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    @akan004 said in Bledisloe #1:

    can we afford to have three smallish and relatively weak defenders in Smith, Barrett and Mo'unga?

    I wouldn't put BB down as a relatively weak defender. He's actually pretty solid and exceptional at cover defence.

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    @Jaguares4real Defence was good in that game. I think the 2nd half performance in Wellington was the best performance this year, but they were up against a much more one dimensional team last weekend than they faced tonight.

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    @Victor-Meldrew Fair point.

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    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #1:

    @sparky said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Duluth If he goes to the RWC it is as a fullback who can play midfield in an emergency. Doesn't have the gas now to play Wing at International level.

    Don't think he should be anywhere near the midfield except in dire emergency.

    I'm pretty sure he started 7 games on the right wing for the ABs last year and only 5 at fullback, so he might not be a completely spent force on the wing.

    Didn’t DMac start a few games at fullback last year?

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    @sparky said in Bledisloe #1:

    @Stargazer said in Bledisloe #1:

    Ah, another TSF meltdown. Everyone completely overreacting as usual.

    I would argue that we have been under-reacting for the past year as the coaches have served up dross in game after game. The side really hasn't been the same since Wayne Smith left.

    Today's performance was worse than dross. It's where arrogance leads you. Mickey Mouse Hansen should be ashamed.

    There has been more than a whiff of complacency from AB supporters/media

    Signs have been there Last 6-8 serious Test matches
    I'll also add: Boy do ABs miss Damien McKenzie

    Even more recently you have NZ Super Rugby sides look distinctly average Saders & Canes were on a different level to their local SR rivals

    The bad news is the ABs weaknesses will be exacerbated in 2020 when there's no BBBR Whitelock Read Crotty Franks Bender

    2019 RWC is a open Comp It won't be a cakewalk for ABs as it was in 2011 + 2015 Tournaments

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    @Jaguares4real 2011 was a cakewalk? Last time I checked we won the final by 1 point and we lost what was it 9 or 10 1st 5’s

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