Bledisloe #1
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@Duluth said in Bledisloe #1:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #1:
What's wrong with Reece at 14?
Terrible defence at SR and NPC level. Caught out of position against Argentina.
To give him credit He made one of the best tackles I've ever seen a winger make on his own goaline vs a rampaging backrower (Kramer)
He should have been dragged over the try line yet Reece stoned Kramer on the gain line
But he was badly exposed in 2nd half but BBR and BB saved his ass
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@akan004 said in Bledisloe #1:
@Chris-B Retallick is the key, as well as a bigger and more physical no 6 (just don't know if we have one). Hopefully BBBR can come back in time and not redislocate his shoulder again when he's back. Apparently the chances of that happening is pretty high.
Yeah - I think we're fucked if we don't have Retallick. Don't know that we've got the six we need in the squad still, but Frizell or Squire can do the job.
I don't agree at all with those slamming Mo'unga in this game - but, a problem with having all of him, Beauden and Aaron Smith on the park is that you've got three pretty small backs out of seven - guys who aren't going to make dominant tackles. So - good offensive option, but a defensive weakness - especially when our forwards are getting dominated as well.
Much wrong tonight - let's see what our coaches can do to rectify it.
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@mariner4life but we have never played this pack before and some of these guys don’t have a huge highlights reel.
We were outplayed no doubt about it and I think both of us were saying pre game that we had better be up for this given the size of their pack. We weren’t and we got a lesson.
Hopefully we learn from it.
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@ACT-Crusader my issue is, what's the lesson? what did we learn? If it is not selection related, we are still in trouble.
I hate to bang a drum, but shit a guy like Akira would have been alright tonight
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #1:
Ben Smith looking shit on the wing...again....
Sad to see such a great old war horse play so poorly, but he was utter shite this evening. Time to put in the younger guys who are faster and hungry for success.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe #1:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe #1:
Worst loss I can remember against Oz.
The one in 2011 felt similar , but we lost players through injury , this one was worse because we looked clueless
Just clicked now but 2008 Sydney beats 2011 Brisbane for me and I was at both. It was the first Deans vs Henry test, so high stakes and without McCaw they were woeful, ill disciplined and looked impotent on attack.
2011 Brisbane had early injuries + RWC naming that week + Crusaders players gassed. Despite that they came out at half time and showed the ability to "flick the switch" and Nonu/Smith especially carved them up. In the end they lost to a pretty flukey try (Wayne Barnes special from memory) so it was a similar script to Hong Kong where they dug themselves a hole in the first 20 minutes, showed enough mettle to get out of it before bottling it in the end. The only concern coming out of that game going into the RWC was the Read injury.
Anyway the long and the short of it was in 2008 they were able to get things back on track fairly quickly - but a lot of that was McCaw coming back. Brodie could have a similar effect but he won't be there.
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@sparky said in Bledisloe #1:
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe #1:
Ben Smith looking shit on the wing...again....
Sad to see such a great old war horse play so poorly, but he was utter shite this evening. Time to put in the younger guys who are faster and hungry for success.
Would like his experience on the bench though, covering 15-13
So I'd expect Hansen to pick him at 13 for the injured Goodhue then....
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@Chris-B Thought Mo'unga wasn't that bad either but like you said, can we afford to have three smallish and relatively weak defenders in Smith, Barrett and Mo'unga. I don't think we can, especially when the pack is showing fuck all physical presence.
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@Mokey said in Bledisloe #1:
It is actually alarming that we are playing so badly. No gameplan, poor discipline, terrible handling...Aussies are outplaying us everywhere.
Less time on the PR trail and more back to basics, me thinks.
Absolutely nails it. Key thing is to remember how much this shameful, disgusting performance hurt and lear from it.
The ABs have spent too much much time believing their own legend and being piston wristed gibbons in public about it. Time to work very, very hard indeed on the basics of catch, pass, defend, push, kick and run.
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@sparky said in Bledisloe #1:
Sad to see such a great old war horse play so poorly, but he was utter shite this evening. Time to put in the younger guys who are faster and hungry for success.
He wasn't good
Q: When was the last time he played well?
2 Test matches ago against ArgentinaQ: What was different?
He was at fullback -
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@sparky said in Bledisloe #1:
@Duluth If he goes to the RWC it is as a fullback who can play midfield in an emergency. Doesn't have the gas now to play Wing at International level.
Don't think he should be anywhere near the midfield except in dire emergency.
I'm pretty sure he started 7 games on the right wing for the ABs last year and only 5 at fullback, so he might not be a completely spent force on the wing.
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If this same team turns up next week and beats the piss out of the Wallabies I will be even more fucked off.
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@akan004 said in Bledisloe #1:
@hydro11 said in Bledisloe #1:
@Mokey said in Bledisloe #1:
@Kirwan That is seriously scary. It's hard to remember when they last played such a terrible all round game to the point of screwing up the basics like ball retention and not kicking it away all the time. Add in shite discipline...and yeah.
We have played much worse games than this IMO. The win against Argentina was a worse performance for sure.
Don't think the defence was as poor in that game.
The ARG game has been ABs best performance this year to date
Their defence was exceptional 90% tackles made and saved 2-3 certain tries for PumasDespite all the back slaps Boks got for their game vs ABs
They were clueless in attack & never looked liked scoring for 79 minsBit of magic from Kolbe & A Smith clocking off in defence led to their only try
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe #1:
Ah, another TSF meltdown. Everyone completely overreacting as usual.
I would argue that we have been under-reacting for the past year as the coaches have served up dross in game after game. The side really hasn't been the same since Wayne Smith left.
Today's performance was worse than dross. It's where arrogance leads you. Mickey Mouse Hansen should be ashamed.
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