TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98)
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@Salacious-Crumb said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Lots of hysterical overreactions here, and that’s perfectly okay because I was having a similar meltdown when I read the team selection... until I talked myself off the ledge remembering the brains trust has delivered two consecutive WC championships, and that has to be worth something. The selectors might even know more about their profession than some of us, certainly not all of us, but me definitely. Keep the faith.
.....and even if we lose it's only a..........
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...teachable moment...?
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@Salacious-Crumb said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
...teachable moment...?
runaround amongst friends.
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@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
ABs are well stocked at Lock for 2019 RWC
When Hemepo is 4th choice you're doing wellProblem is in 2020 when only S Barett returns
Sam Whitelock is back for the All Blacks in 2020.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Lots of hysterical overreactions here, and that’s perfectly okay because I was having a similar meltdown when I read the team selection... until I talked myself off the ledge remembering the brains trust has delivered two consecutive WC championships, and that has to be worth something. The selectors might even know more about their profession than some of us, certainly not all of us, but me definitely. Keep the faith.
which is all well and good. Except i am getting kinda tired of watching us play shitty football. I don't watch rugby games thinking about the next game, i watch games to be entertained. I was not entertained on the weekend. I wasn't entertained for most of last year either. Frustrated would be the word i would use.
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Smells like teen spiriit. Dial it down a little. Reserve the toy tossing until after the test match.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Smells like teen spiriit. Dial it down a little. Reserve the toy tossing until after the test match.
why?
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@mariner4life said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Salacious-Crumb said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Lots of hysterical overreactions here, and that’s perfectly okay because I was having a similar meltdown when I read the team selection... until I talked myself off the ledge remembering the brains trust has delivered two consecutive WC championships, and that has to be worth something. The selectors might even know more about their profession than some of us, certainly not all of us, but me definitely. Keep the faith.
which is all well and good. Except i am getting kinda tired of watching us play shitty football. I don't watch rugby games thinking about the next game, i watch games to be entertained. I was not entertained on the weekend. I wasn't entertained for most of last year either. Frustrated would be the word i would use.
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You’re an adult, yes?
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I thought the “entertainment” angle was pretty much rendered moot every time the selectors picked Grant Fox over Frano Botica — and that was well before professionalism. ABs select for results, not your popcorn habits.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
You’re an adult, yes?
debatable
And if we aren't going to vent our opinions, what exactly is the point of coming here?
Every single thread and discussion should be 1 - 2 posts long, ending with "these guys are better players than me. these coaches know more than me. these refs know the laws and how to apply them more than me. i will keep my mouth shut"
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@Salacious-Crumb said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
I thought the “entertainment” angle was pretty much rendered moot every time the selectors picked Grant Fox over Frano Botica — and that was well before professionalism. ABs select for results, not your popcorn habits.
The ABs are currently selected for results in October. We are in July. This is my issue.
And if we played dour 10 man rugby to grind out wins i would certainly stop turning in.
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@sparky said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Machpants 98th game against the Old Foe.
100th could be a RWC final!
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@mariner4life said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
This team is a fucking gamble, and the brains trust should face backlash if it doesn't work. But they won't, because the World Cup has fucked everything up.
A part-time fullback. Another new midfield, including a dude with serious doubts over current ability. A loose forward trio comprising of a seriously untested (at any level) rookie, and a veteran with form concerns. The bench contains a rookie, and a bloke who hasn't cut it at test level in any position.
I think the backs selection is the most exciting we've picked for ages. I'm not too concerned about SBW being picked because the default "settled midfield" is Crotty-Goodhue. I think Hansen's preferred first choice option is SBW-Goodhue, so we're getting to see that.
Loose forward selections are slightly odd - but, I think Frizell now has the inside running as our starting six and Todd is only a touch behind Ardie and Cane. Really it's the bench selections that are a bit odd.
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@Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@mariner4life said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
This team is a fucking gamble, and the brains trust should face backlash if it doesn't work. But they won't, because the World Cup has fucked everything up.
A part-time fullback. Another new midfield, including a dude with serious doubts over current ability. A loose forward trio comprising of a seriously untested (at any level) rookie, and a veteran with form concerns. The bench contains a rookie, and a bloke who hasn't cut it at test level in any position.
I think the backs selection is the most exciting we've picked for ages. I'm not too concerned about SBW being picked because the default "settled midfield" is Crotty-Goodhue. I think Hansen's preferred first choice option is SBW-Goodhue, so we're getting to see that.
Loose forward selections are slightly odd - but, I think Frizell now has the inside running as our starting six and Todd is only a touch behind Ardie and Cane. Really it's the bench selections that are a bit odd.
i don't actually disagree with any of this. I think the backs could be really good. But it could also be terrible. As i say, it's a risk, in a home game, against South Africa.
Frizzell is probably firming in to the 6 jersey, and the bits i saw of him at Super level started to look pretty pleasing. But again, he's not had a lot of rugby this year. With a 2nd thought, pairing him with Read and Todd as a combination might remove a little pressure from him.
I still find it astounding that we are playing the Boks at home, and our 3 best players from last week, 3 guys who are all basically top 15 players, are not starting, and only one is in the side at all.
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@mariner4life Listen, this is no good. Your brains trust are to be commended on their experimentation.
You're facing opposition that over the last 30 years or more beats you only about 20% of the time. We aren't due another win until after the RWC. The ABs can afford to experiment against us, we haven't got much more than a gnat's ballhair of a chance of winning in NZ anyway. And even if we do win this one, chances are we won't be able to back it up at the RWC when there's a bigger prize on offer.
In short, I can see no reason they shouldn't continue this bold experimental selection strategy until, oh I dunno, September 22, 2019.
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@mariner4life said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Salacious-Crumb said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
You’re an adult, yes?
debatable
And if we aren't going to vent our opinions, what exactly is the point of coming here?
Every single thread and discussion should be 1 - 2 posts long, ending with "these guys are better players than me. these coaches know more than me. these refs know the laws and how to apply them more than me. i will keep my mouth shut"
I was begrudgingly with you until you got to the refs.
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