Blues 2020
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@shark said in Blues 2020:
@Kirwan said in Blues 2020:
Since we are collecting tens like the Crusaders used to, I wonder how long Richie has on his contract? Would be a good bench option if BB, Black, DC or Plummer got injured.
You could get Jimmy Gopperth back. Or Stevie Brett. Ihaiah West perhaps? Or how about Benji?
How could you forget the gold standard - Tasesa Lavea? He’s the guy who ended Carlos’ career in conjunction with Joe Schmidt. It’s the NZ version of curse of the bambino - curse of the Los.
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@Tim said in Blues 2020:
@junior said in Blues 2020:
how much of a turnstile Aaaron Mauger
One of the worst NZ midfield backs I've seen. Awful defence, and could not take the ball to the line at all. Zero physicality and no speed. Baffling that he made the ABs.
And his propensity to put in stupid chip kicks and give away possession in good attacking positions used to shit me no end. McAlister used to get a lot of shit for this but Mauger was far worse in my view (especially since he was supposed to be a senior leader in the team)
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@shark said in Blues 2020:
Wow. Wow. Wow. Mauger was way better than you guys are making him out to be, and certainly the best 12 in NZ in the 2000s until Nonu settled into the position.
Mauger Vs McAlister. Mauger by a country. Obviously Ma'a Nonu at his best in a different solar system to both.
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@shark said in Blues 2020:
Wow. Wow. Wow. Mauger was way better than you guys are making him out to be, and certainly the best 12 in NZ in the 2000s until Nonu settled into the position.
He was awesome in 2002 and 2003 and never reached that high standard again and then eventually got surpassed by Lucky.
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@Nepia said in Blues 2020:
@shark said in Blues 2020:
Wow. Wow. Wow. Mauger was way better than you guys are making him out to be, and certainly the best 12 in NZ in the 2000s until Nonu settled into the position.
He was awesome in 2002 and 2003 and never reached that high standard again and then eventually got surpassed by Lucky.
I'd refute that McAlister ever surpassed him. At best there was a rotation.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:
@shark the cricket pitch in the middle of a rugby field...the memories!
I'm pretty sure that NZ won an ODI against SA the night before with Flem getting a rare ton on home soil? Underrated series.
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@nzzp said in Blues 2020:
NICK EVANS IGNORED YET AGAIN
that was one of the great disappointments for me. So talented, such a player and just didnt' fire a shot for us
He was out the door before walked in and who can blame him when Nucifora was too. Bad timing - he might have done better just a year earlier.
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@rotated said in Blues 2020:
@nzzp said in Blues 2020:
NICK EVANS IGNORED YET AGAIN
that was one of the great disappointments for me. So talented, such a player and just didnt' fire a shot for us
He was out the door before walked in and who can blame him when Nucifora was too. Bad timing - he might have done better just a year earlier.
I dunno, came in, and got shunted to fullback after a couple of games. Such an exciting player, who just didn't deliver for us.
Like, there's a list of those boys to be fair. I'm nervous about gettin set up yet again for bitter disappointment
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@Tim said in Blues 2020:
@junior said in Blues 2020:
how much of a turnstile Aaaron Mauger
One of the worst NZ midfield backs I've seen. Awful defence, and could not take the ball to the line at all. Zero physicality and no speed. Baffling that he made the ABs.
First time visitor and poster [to this thread] and it appears this Blues thread is on par with the US politics thread....
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@shark said in Blues 2020:
Wow. Wow. Wow. Mauger was way better than you guys are making him out to be, and certainly the best 12 in NZ in the 2000s until Nonu settled into the position.
He was fortunate to play for the Crusaders and only ever looked good when he had Tana outside him covering his glaring defensive deficiencies
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@sparky said in Blues 2020:
@shark said in Blues 2020:
Wow. Wow. Wow. Mauger was way better than you guys are making him out to be, and certainly the best 12 in NZ in the 2000s until Nonu settled into the position.
Mauger Vs McAlister. Mauger by a country. Obviously Ma'a Nonu at his best in a different solar system to both.
AIDS vs. Cancer. AIDS by a country.
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@nzzp said in Blues 2020:
@rotated said in Blues 2020:
@nzzp said in Blues 2020:
NICK EVANS IGNORED YET AGAIN
that was one of the great disappointments for me. So talented, such a player and just didnt' fire a shot for us
He was out the door before walked in and who can blame him when Nucifora was too. Bad timing - he might have done better just a year earlier.
I dunno, came in, and got shunted to fullback after a couple of games. Such an exciting player, who just didn't deliver for us.
Like, there's a list of those boys to be fair. I'm nervous about gettin set up yet again for bitter disappointment
Yeah from memory Nacewa went far better at 10 that season than Evans.
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@shark said in Blues 2020:
@Nepia said in Blues 2020:
@shark said in Blues 2020:
Wow. Wow. Wow. Mauger was way better than you guys are making him out to be, and certainly the best 12 in NZ in the 2000s until Nonu settled into the position.
He was awesome in 2002 and 2003 and never reached that high standard again and then eventually got surpassed by Lucky.
I'd refute that McAlister ever surpassed him. At best there was a rotation.
Of course you would.
Even allowing for rotation Lucky got the bulk of the big games in the 2007.
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@junior said in Blues 2020:
@shark said in Blues 2020:
Wow. Wow. Wow. Mauger was way better than you guys are making him out to be, and certainly the best 12 in NZ in the 2000s until Nonu settled into the position.
He was fortunate to play for the Crusaders and only ever looked good when he had Tana outside him covering his glaring defensive deficiencies
Again, wow. I started watching the guy in the 1st XV comp in 1996 and he was awesome then. He must have had A LOT of quality centres outside covering him right from then. And wasn't he also the U20s skipper? Big responsibility for a liability.