EPL 19/20
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I do find the language used on the wendyball thread interesting. Lots of 'we', 'our', 'us' in reference to a team.
Not used at all in the rugby threads apart from the occasional use of 'we' when talking about the ABs.
Big cultural difference.
I see it all the time in rugby match threads. "We got tucked by the ref" etc etc.
Nowhere near to the levels used when talking wendyball. Go through the Chiefs/Blues thread with plenty of talk from supporters of both sides and there isn't much of it. This thread has nearly every participant referring to a team as 'we'.
It's not a big deal, I just find the cultural difference interesting. I used to work at a place full of soccer 'followers' who would spend their Mondays talking about how 'we beat you' which used to seem quite ridiculous on the surface of it. A bunch of kiwis about as far away from the clubs they follow in both geographical and cultural facets talking about 'we' and 'us' and 'you'
I get that it's a culture thing I just commented on how I find it interesting.
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I do find the language used on the wendyball thread interesting. Lots of 'we', 'our', 'us' in reference to a team.
Not used at all in the rugby threads apart from the occasional use of 'we' when talking about the ABs.
Big cultural difference.
I see it all the time in rugby match threads. "We got tucked by the ref" etc etc.
Nowhere near to the levels used when talking wendyball. Go through the Chiefs/Blues thread with plenty of talk from supporters of both sides and there isn't much of it. This thread has nearly every participant referring to a team as 'we'.
It's not a big deal, I just find the cultural difference interesting. I used to work at a place full of soccer 'followers' who would spend their Mondays talking about how 'we beat you' which used to seem quite ridiculous on the surface of it. A bunch of kiwis about as far away from the clubs they follow in both geographical and cultural facets talking about 'we' and 'us' and 'you'
I get that it's a culture thing I just commented on how I find it interesting.
You haven't been back in NZ long have you...…...
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I do find the language used on the wendyball thread interesting. Lots of 'we', 'our', 'us' in reference to a team.
Not used at all in the rugby threads apart from the occasional use of 'we' when talking about the ABs.
Big cultural difference.
I know what you mean. I find people who have never been near Liverpool, let alone Anfield, saying "we" for their team extremely odd.
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@MajorRage said in EPL 19/20:
I do find the language used on the wendyball thread interesting. Lots of 'we', 'our', 'us' in reference to a team.
Not used at all in the rugby threads apart from the occasional use of 'we' when talking about the ABs.
Big cultural difference.
I know what you mean. I find people who have never been near Liverpool, let alone Anfield, saying "we" for their team extremely odd.
I never made it to Anfield despite 4 years in the UK and 37 years of supporting Liverpool. Closest I got was watching them away at Highbury.
WE lost 2-1 that day and I came very close to getting my head kicked in. Luckily Henry scored the winner and the arse fans forgot all about me.
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@MajorRage I don't see the problem with it at all tbh. People can support who they like imo. I've supported Aston Villa since I was a boy, never been to Villa park (I'll get there eventually), but have spent thousands on merchandise and woken up at all hours over the last 20 years to watch them play (including the years 'we' were in the championship) so yeah, I refer to Aston Villa as 'we' and have no problem with it, similar to fans supporting the ABs/Blues or any other Super Rugby side from other parts of the world. If anything, I see it as a good thing that there are fans following the product far and wide. Just my 2 cents anyway.
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@MajorRage yeah, good question. The first 2 year stint i was completely skint. Was straight out of uni, working crap jobs to travel and party etc. The 2nd 2yr stint about 5 years later whenni had proper income, I have no real excuse. Just never made the effort. Weak!
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@MajorRage oh it occurred to me sure. I had tickets once but they fell through, and had a few of chances to go sit with away fans which I didn't want to do .
But to be quite honest, I was by then, and still am now, very much a part-time supporter. By that I mean that I will never ever support another team, but that I have very little interest in actually watching games. This is clearly an extraordinary year for us (😉), and I haven't watched a single game. I became disillusioned with the game a long time ago. A combination of diving theatrics, disgraceful player discipline (intimidating referees the worst example), and the fact that it seems the league was structured another only a team with a billionaire owner and deep willing pockets could win (Leicestershire disproved that somewhat).
I still follow with interest, but I just don't watch games anymore.
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@MajorRage oh it occurred to me sure. I had tickets once but they fell through, and had a few of chances to go sit with away fans which I didn't want to do .
But to be quite honest, I was by then, and still am now, very much a part-time supporter. By that I mean that I will never ever support another team, but that I have very little interest in actually watching games. This is clearly an extraordinary year for us (😉), and I haven't watched a single game. I became disillusioned with the game a long time ago. A combination of diving theatrics, disgraceful player discipline (intimidating referees the worst example), and the fact that it seems the league was structured another only a team with a billionaire owner and deep willing pockets could win (Leicestershire disproved that somewhat).
I still follow with interest, but I just don't watch games anymore.
I support and will always support the Chiefs and Waikato but I have no desire to go to a match anymore. I'm very happy watching with some mates or at home. Doesn't mean I like the team any less.
Their sin't a list of rules you must follow to be a supporter and no one wins "best supporter' for going to a game in the cold. You do get annoying twats who some thingk this is important
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With Liverpool thumping Southampton, and City losing to Spurs, they are now 6 wins from the title.
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@voodoo I think you know I’m on the wind up ...
In truth I have no issues with why anybody supports who they do. However on my first UK stint I never understood why Liverpool supporting antips wouldn’t come watch Chelsea, Fulham, QPR, Palace in London because they only supported Liverpool.
And yet they never once went up to Anfield either.
Meetups in pubs literally 2-3 x a week to watch other games, so massive football fans too ...
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It does look to be one of those season. Liverpool were run around by Southampton in the first half, requiring Shane Long to block a goal bound shot yet get a comfortable win. City did everything but score against Spurs for an hour, get a man sent off, concede to the opposition's first shot (how often has that happened) and lose. Liverpool are comfortably the best team in the division but their actual lead is now just freakish in its unlikely size!
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Doesn't look like any top flight team has done better than Barry Town's 105. But! Reading managed 106 in the 2005/06 championship season.
So Liverpool can afford to drop 5 points to claim both best ever top flight points total in Europe and best ever in the UK.
Obviously a massive advantage to play in a bigger league with more games, but I haven't look at best ever in terms of points dropped which would be a better measure.
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@Cyclops Spain - Real and Barcelona got to 100 points in a season back to back 11/12 & 12/13
- no side has gone undefeated since the 30's when the season was only 18 games. Barcelona and Real have both had season(s) with only one loss. 88/89 for Real and 09/10 and 17/18 for Barca.
Italy - Juve got 102 points in 13/14 but had 2 losses. In 11/12 they went unbeaten (part of a run of 18 mths without a loss) but had 15 draws and only finished on 84 points
AC Milan went unbeaten in 91/2 (2 points for a win) but had 12 drawsGermany - Bayern (predictably) has highest season total 91 in 12/13. That total says they have always dropped a few points although they have twice only suffered one defeat
France - PSG got 96 in 15/16
Nantes only had one loss in 94/5 but a lot of drawsElsewhere
South Shields in 16/17 in Div 1 of the Northern Football League got 108 points from 42 games - 2 lossesSteaua Bucharest went undefeated in 104 domestic games from 86-89 during which time they also won the European Cup against Barcelona (on penalties). They also made the final again in 89 at the end of their run but lost to AC Milan 4-0
and of course in 16/17 under Brendan Rodgers Celtic were undefeated in all domestic comps getting to 106 points in the League with only 4 draws
unluckiest team - Atlético Mineiro in 1977 in Brazil won their group in all three rounds of the league (they had a weird complicated system) then cleaned up the semi before losing the final 2-3 on penalties to Sao Paulo after a scoreless game.
Across the entire season they played 21 with 17 wins and 4 draws a GD of 39 and totalled 10 more points than Sao Paulo but finished with nothing
