Nations Championship?
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@Dan54 said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
We will see, I still reckon the comp doesn't count towards the Nations cup, but the games within it do! But we will all see as time goes along!
The games can't count because that would require all 12 of the participating nations to take part in either the TRC or the Six Nations.
Even in a scenario where Fiji and Japan are added to the Rugby Championship (which, at least in the former's case, is very unlikely), you're then completely excluding any other sides from taking part (e.g. Georgia, Samoa) unless the TRC/6N introduces promotion/relegation. The 6N have already categorically ruled that out, and I don't think the TRC would consider it either.
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@Mr-Fish They don't have to join any comp, the RC will be played over one round (good) and then there will be a couple of extra tests against Fiji,Japan or Tonga , and same in 6n it's been shoertened to a 5 week comp it seems, but there will only be promo relegation for 1 team in each hemisphere. The whole idea of a world league is everyone plays everyone during it, and so using existing matches makes sense. Anyway as I said we will await and see.
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@Dan54 said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
@Mr-Fish They don't have to join any comp, the RC will be played over one round (good) and then there will be a couple of extra tests against Fiji,Japan or Tonga , and same in 6n it's been shoertened to a 5 week comp it seems, but there will only be promo relegation for 1 team in each hemisphere. The whole idea of a world league is everyone plays everyone during it, and so using existing matches makes sense. Anyway as I said we will await and see.
And the Six Nations?
We really don't need to wait and see, they've been pretty clear with what they're doing...
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@Dan54 said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
@Mr-Fish They don't have to join any comp, the RC will be played over one round (good) and then there will be a couple of extra tests against Fiji,Japan or Tonga , and same in 6n it's been shoertened to a 5 week comp it seems, but there will only be promo relegation for 1 team in each hemisphere. The whole idea of a world league is everyone plays everyone during it, and so using existing matches makes sense. Anyway as I said we will await and see.
What you are describing is adding 2 teams to the TRC in all but name.
Except your 'loose TRC expansion' leaves the promotion-relegation option open for the 'excluded two'.
The whole raison d'etre for this Nation Cup thing is to increase the revenue pie for the ten 6N and TRC unions. Do you think reducing the TRC and replacing with 3 friendlies would achieve this for the Sanzaar 4?
Everything released to the media shows this is all about 6N and TRC status quo, while pooling the July and November tours into a collective monetized comp.
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@Mr-Fish said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
@Dan54 said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
@Mr-Fish They don't have to join any comp, the RC will be played over one round (good) and then there will be a couple of extra tests against Fiji,Japan or Tonga , and same in 6n it's been shoertened to a 5 week comp it seems, but there will only be promo relegation for 1 team in each hemisphere. The whole idea of a world league is everyone plays everyone during it, and so using existing matches makes sense. Anyway as I said we will await and see.
And the Six Nations?
We really don't need to wait and see, they've been pretty clear with what they're doing...
Yes, you are talking known facts. Some others are either spitballing (as I did) or talking wishful interpretations.
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S Stargazer referenced this topic on
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So it's official, pretty much as expected. Closed shop until 2030, then relegation. Interesting points
SANZAAR get to decide who the extras two nations are
The odd number years WR promise more tier cross over matches, will that actually happen? Will that mean more outside Windows matches to make money as eg) abs Vs Portugal not really going to be a money spinner
Women's get a release window, and there is change to men's window not specified
Rwc 27 four more teams, not sure how that is going to work
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There are some positive element to this. But there are some real shitty parts too.
Fiji (and Japan) will get a place at the top table, but the test of the tier 2 nations like Georgia, Samoa & Tonga will be totally shafted. You know how they only get to play about one match a year against tier 1 nations at the moment, and everyone agrees they deserve more? Well, fuck that, they'll be getting pretty much zero now.
They will have regular matches among themselves, which is a positive, but apart from world cups that's it, no more Tier 1 v 2 games. Pull up the drawbridge.
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Agreed. To me this just seems like a token gesture to justify even more tier1 international rugby.
Money, money, money.
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I think the better way to give the T2 sides more games, is adding midweek games to the schedule. All Blacks already take 35+ players on a Northern tour... could easily add 2-3 extras and add in games vs Portugal and Romania for example. You don't want to be reducing the quantity of tests between the T1 teams for pointless games (which is what they are as a contest) that won't engage the fan, particularly the casual fan.
We all joked about the Qatar Airways Cup, but Twickenham was sold out (?)... if that was NZ v Portugal, it wouldn't even be half full.
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The wording, FYI.
Launch of a bi-annual new international competition from 2026, comprising a top division of 12 teams (Six Nations unions, SANZAAR unions and two further unions to be selected via a process run by SANZAAR), and a second division run by World Rugby of 12 teams with promotion and relegation commencing from 2030. Played in the July and November international release windows
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@GibbonRib said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
There are some positive element to this. But there are some real shitty parts too.
Fiji (and Japan) will get a place at the top table, but the test of the tier 2 nations like Georgia, Samoa & Tonga will be totally shafted. You know how they only get to play about one match a year against tier 1 nations at the moment, and everyone agrees they deserve more? Well, fuck that, they'll be getting pretty much zero now.
They will have regular matches among themselves, which is a positive, but apart from world cups that's it, no more Tier 1 v 2 games. Pull up the drawbridge.
The tier one Vs two happen every second year, the odd years. WR say they will get 50% more games with tier 1 then they do now. That's on top of regular even year comp. We'll see if that actually happens. It's going to cost a lot of money for the tier 1, as they're hardly going to sell out huge stadiums versus minnows. I guess there is some money coming from WR to T1 nations to cover that
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In this RWC cycle (2019-2023), Wales has played
Canada
Georgia x 2
FijiShould have played Japan but it was cancelled due to COVID
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@frugby said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
I think the better way to give the T2 sides more games, is adding midweek games to the schedule. All Blacks already take 35+ players on a Northern tour... could easily add 2-3 extras and add in games vs Portugal and Romania for example. You don't want to be reducing the quantity of tests between the T1 teams for pointless games (which is what they are as a contest) that won't engage the fan, particularly the casual fan.
We all joked about the Qatar Airways Cup, but Twickenham was sold out (?)... if that was NZ v Portugal, it wouldn't even be half full.
All Blacks v Portugal/Romania is pointless, contest-wise. But Italy v Georgia, or Samoa v Wales, or Portugal v Japan, isn't - those are the fixtures that rugby needs more of
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@MiketheSnow said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
In this RWC cycle (2019-2023), Wales has played
Canada
Georgia x 2
FijiShould have played Japan but it was cancelled due to COVID
So the plan does work if we're including Wales. It means teams can move from second tier to consistent competition with tier one nations...
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I had to look up our fixtures over the same period and was surprised at how many Tier 2 matches we'd played:-
Georgia
USA
Canada
Tonga
Japan
FijiEdit: Not including current RWC games clearly.
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I like the idea overall, but they had an opportunity to help the smaller countries by tweaking the games and the promotion-relegation rules but seem to have blown it.
As @Catogrande said, it seems like pull up the drawbridge and throw a bone to the minnows.
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@Catogrande
AB's have played exactly the same Tier 2 Nations between RWC's except in our case replace Georgia with Australia -
@GibbonRib said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
@frugby said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
I think the better way to give the T2 sides more games, is adding midweek games to the schedule. All Blacks already take 35+ players on a Northern tour... could easily add 2-3 extras and add in games vs Portugal and Romania for example. You don't want to be reducing the quantity of tests between the T1 teams for pointless games (which is what they are as a contest) that won't engage the fan, particularly the casual fan.
We all joked about the Qatar Airways Cup, but Twickenham was sold out (?)... if that was NZ v Portugal, it wouldn't even be half full.
All Blacks v Portugal/Romania is pointless, contest-wise. But Italy v Georgia, or Samoa v Wales, or Portugal v Japan, isn't - those are the fixtures that rugby needs more of
All Blacks v Portugal/Romania does have value as far as raising some interest, selling tickets for the home union etc, look at the All White when they get to play some of the bigger names, whole lot of press, sell out a stadium etc
i kind of feel the same top teams only playing the same top teams just stagnates things
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Qatar emerge as surprise bidders for the Nations Championship finals
EXCLUSIVE BY MATT HUGHES: Qatar have made a surprise bid to host the finals of the new Nations Championship from 2026 in a three-day festival they are billing as a
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@Duluth said in Six Nations, SANZAAR New tournaments in 2026:
Qatar emerge as surprise bidders for the Nations Championship finals
EXCLUSIVE BY MATT HUGHES: Qatar have made a surprise bid to host the finals of the new Nations Championship from 2026 in a three-day festival they are billing as a
It makes me sick, all these great games going to ME with no local support. golf, soccer. But rugby needs the $$$
