6 Nations 2019
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I watched the game and I really think Gregor is clutching at straws. I don’t think there were persistent offsides.
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@Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:
I watched the game and I really think Gregor is clutching at straws. I don’t think there were persistent offsides.
It’s more the consistent pushing at the offside line that makes the call “obviously” offside rather not “not onside”.
I would be fairly certain that with accurate technology you would notice persistent offside but I also wouldn’t want to go down that path.
In the modern game it really is the main thing that is curtailing attacking play.
Although most decisions in the game are ‘obvious infringement’ I really think that offside has to go to ‘obvious adherence”. If the ref team can’t observe an obvious gap then players are deemed offside -
I only watched the first 60 minutes of Ireland/England before being whisked away to wedding so I perhaps have a skewed view but I wouldn't be too demoralised if I was Ireland. They just looked like a team who were having an off day early (and without a bit of luck would have been a lot worse) and did a pretty good job to keep it together to try and pinch it at the end.
It will be troubling they couldn't get it together and find another gear to turn things a round in the second half, but I've seen the ABs play that exact 60 minutes of rugby at least 5 times in the last cycle including the Ire and Eng tests last season.
Ireland's undoing IMO will be much like the 2011 Boks who got the rub of the green with referees for so long that when they finally get a game where the calls are going 60/40 against them they get frazzled and lose structure.
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@rotated said in 6 Nations 2019:
I only watched the first 60 minutes of Ireland/England before being whisked away to wedding so I perhaps have a skewed view but I wouldn't be too demoralised if I was Ireland. They just looked like a team who were having an off day early (and without a bit of luck would have been a lot worse) and did a pretty good job to keep it together to try and pinch it at the end.
It will be troubling they couldn't get it together and find another gear to turn things a round in the second half, but I've seen the ABs play that exact 60 minutes of rugby at least 5 times in the last cycle including the Ire and Eng tests last season.
Ireland's undoing IMO will be much like the 2011 Boks who got the rub of the green with referees for so long that when they finally get a game where the calls are going 60/40 against them they get frazzled and lose structure.
The penalty count was hugely in their favour for first 60 minutes.
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@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:
@rotated said in 6 Nations 2019:
I only watched the first 60 minutes of Ireland/England before being whisked away to wedding so I perhaps have a skewed view but I wouldn't be too demoralised if I was Ireland. They just looked like a team who were having an off day early (and without a bit of luck would have been a lot worse) and did a pretty good job to keep it together to try and pinch it at the end.
It will be troubling they couldn't get it together and find another gear to turn things a round in the second half, but I've seen the ABs play that exact 60 minutes of rugby at least 5 times in the last cycle including the Ire and Eng tests last season.
Ireland's undoing IMO will be much like the 2011 Boks who got the rub of the green with referees for so long that when they finally get a game where the calls are going 60/40 against them they get frazzled and lose structure.
The penalty count was hugely in their favour for first 60 minutes.
The ABs have had similar games though being outplayed in the first 60 with penalty count in their favour; 2nd Lions test and vs Boks in Wellington last year. It happens and it's a sign of a good team that they had the fight to keep the game close and be in it so late on an off day.
It does highlight the challenge Ireland will face playing three big games on the trot without faltering.
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@Crucial said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:
I watched the game and I really think Gregor is clutching at straws. I don’t think there were persistent offsides.
It’s more the consistent pushing at the offside line that makes the call “obviously” offside rather not “not onside”.
I would be fairly certain that with accurate technology you would notice persistent offside but I also wouldn’t want to go down that path.
In the modern game it really is the main thing that is curtailing attacking play.
Although most decisions in the game are ‘obvious infringement’ I really think that offside has to go to ‘obvious adherence”. If the ref team can’t observe an obvious gap then players are deemed offsideWales walk the line all match, every match. That's Shaun Edwards' way.
Where they get away with it is either
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The whole back line is in sync so there's no obvious 'culprit' offside. Much harder for the ref to identify an individual.
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The wings are slightly ahead of 10, 12, 13 but because they're further away from the action and not involved the ref ignores them. But the midfield axis are offside as a unit, they just don't look like they are.
It goes to shit and Wales get deservedly penalised when someone isn't in sync with the two options above.
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Wales team to face Italy on Saturday
Wales: L Williams; Holmes, J Davies (capt), Watkin, Adams; Biggar, A Davies
N Smith, Dee, Lee, Ball, Beard Wainwright, Young, Navidi
Replacements:
Elias, W Jones, D Lewis, Alun Wyn Jones, Moriarty
G Davies, Anscombe, AmosGreat to see Aberdare boy - and son of Wales & BI Lions prop David Young - Thomas Young getting a run out.
Great to see both depth and youth in the squad.
Based on last Saturday's performance against Scotland, the Italians can be dangerous if you take your foot off the gas (throat).
Wales should have too much.
Wales by 25-30.
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@MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.
I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.
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@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.
I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.
Yes.
Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.
Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al
Deserves a shot.
Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.
Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.
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@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.
I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.
Yes.
Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.
Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al
Deserves a shot.
Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.
Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.
Hopefully someone with only one leg. I shall be at the Millennium on a hosted event so it will be a great day whatever happens though of course a win for the good guys (They wear white BTW) would be the icing on the cake. Are you going to the game?
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@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow Dunno if you've seen much of Young's performances for Wasps over the last couple of seasons but he's been very good. England qualified but it would have been a travesty if he'd not plumped for Wales.
I see Gatland has gone with some experience on the bench... just in case.
Yes.
Was in school with Dai and followed Thomas' career.
Consistently good. Offers something different from the bigger back row forwards like Moriarty et al
Deserves a shot.
Yes. Experienced bench to bring it home if needed.
Will be interesting to see who plays 10 against your mob.
Hopefully someone with only one leg. I shall be at the Millennium on a hosted event so it will be a great day whatever happens though of course a win for the good guys (They wear white BTW) would be the icing on the cake. Are you going to the game?
Enjoy.
Unfortunately not.
Still on Hokkaido, Japan.
Back for the Irish match.
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@MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?
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Schmidt makes a couple of changes for the Scots at Murrayfield. Henshaw joins the temp. injured along with Ringrose, Toner.
15.Rob Kearney (Leinster/UCD) 87 caps
14. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 73
13. Chris Farrell (Munster/Young Munster) 3 caps
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 13
11. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 15
10. Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) 79 (vc)
9. Conor Murray (Munster/Garryowen) 68- Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 85
- Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 114 (c)
- Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 29
- James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 14
- Quinn Roux (Galwegians/Connacht) 9
- Peter O’Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 53 (vc)
- Sean O’Brien (Leinster/UCD) 53
- Jack Conan (Leinster/Old Belvedere) 11 caps
Replacements
16. Sean Cronin (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) 66
17. Dave Kilcoyne (Munster/UL Bohemians) 25
18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 12
19. Ultan Dillane (Connacht/Corinthians) 11 caps
20. Josh van der Flier (Leinster/UCD) 14 caps
21. John Cooney (Ulster/Terenure College) 5
22. Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Munster) 17
23. Jordan Larmour (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) 10 -
@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?
Both.
Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido
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@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?
Both.
Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido
I first skied Niseko like most people, took a look around at all the Australians and Kiwis, ever since I've been going to Furano, Tomamu and Kurodake. Less like Bali on snow...
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Looks awesome feller. Living the dream, good on ya.
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@antipodean said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow Work or Snow in Hokkaido?
Both.
Ski instructor in SW Hokkaido
I first skied Niseko like most people, took a look around at all the Australians and Kiwis, ever since I've been going to Furano, Tomamu and Kurodake. Less like Bali on snow...
It's changed.
Lot less Australians and way more SE Asians.
Base myself in Niseko Hirafu because that's where my customers own propreties.
But mainly ski Kiroro, Rusutsu and Niseko Moiwa.
Just did a 10-day roadie hitting the bigger and smaller resorts around Hakodate and Asahikawa.
Magic.
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@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
Looks awesome feller. Living the dream, good on ya.
Cheers.
Yes. Very lucky. Hokkaido is 'Fantasy Island'.
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From mascot to match XV
