2019 Rugby World Cup
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@rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?
Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.
Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?
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@junior said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?
Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.
Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?
Decided how? “Let’s face it Italy, you’re a bit shit so you were never going to qualify anyway, so no harm done”? If that’s the case why did they not just tell Italy (and TBF all the nations seeded 9 to 20) not to bother flying out to Japan in the first place?
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@JC said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@junior said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?
Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.
Is it possible that they've decided to cancel these two matches because the pools are effectively decided?
Decided how? “Let’s face it Italy, you’re a bit shit so you were never going to qualify anyway, so no harm done”? If that’s the case why did they not just tell Italy (and TBF all the nations seeded 9 to 20) not to bother flying out to Japan in the first place?
I'm just speculating, but yeah - cancelling the France v England match this far out is easy to do, as no one's tournament is affected if that match doesn't go ahead (i.e. they'll both make the QFs). Same goes for the ABs v Italy match - that's obviously very harsh on Italy, but it is the truth. Also, I'm not sure WRC really give two shits about being "fair" particularly to a team like Italy.
The Japan v Scotland match - on the other hand - has a lot riding on it. I also understand that it was the most in-demand pool match in terms of ticket sales and so there will be a lot of money to refund. EDIT: I'd also add that there will be a lot of eyeballs on this match from around the world, as the result could affect not just Scotland and Japan, but also NZ, Ireland and RSA.
In those circumstances, you'd want to be absolutely sure that cancelling that match is the best thing to do.
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@rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
So if RSA/Canada and ABs/Italy were scheduled in reverse the Boks would be eliminated? If the ABs lost to South Africa in the opening fixture (without a Bonus point) and all else was the same they would be eliminated?
Waaaay to close to close to the sun there.
No, if the All Blacks were at risk of missing the quarter finals they would have used their influence over World Rugby to have the Typhoon moved off course or asked for Japan to be moved out off the way...
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@Steven-Harris said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@canefan and Ben Skeen to act as the TMO lol
World rugby report that 3 ABs were cited following an intervention from TMO Ben Skeen during a game of warmup touch rugby, Beauden Barrett for being too fast, Sevu Reece for scoring too many tries and Kieran Read just because.
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@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
It's late in the typhoon season, this is a super typhoon and its projected path takes out most of the viable venues and traffic routes on a busy weekend.
The worst Typhoons are usually late in the season and they hit japan. Some other contingencies could have been arranged I think.
Like? Book all the hotels? Book all the stadiums? For the entirety of the pool stage?
Still play the match somewhere else even if an empty stadium. Only teams and officials need to be there.
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@Chris I particularly liked the guys riding a bike (trying to) all the while clutching an umbrella.
Pretty handy metaphor for Italy's chances if the game had gone ahead actually - facing the All Blacks storming at you is like riding a bike into a typhoon with only an umbrella to protect you....
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@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
So let me get this straight, Vunipola is has a minor injury and other members of the team are ill, but Brian Moore specifically calls out NZ for wanting to stick by the rules (which is hilarious in and of itself).
Link?
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Weather report is looking pretty bad, so the cancellation decision looks like it was best. Also looks like Sunday will be fine (actually, the day after a typhoon is usually a cracker), assuming it moves at the predicted pace (which didn’t happen to the one last year and ended up making the damage worse).
Still too early to tell what time things will file through and exactly whether Nagoya or Tokyo or both will get the full force. Nevertheless, they’ve cancelled all domestic (and international too I imagine) flights from Tokyo and will stop the Shinks (and major JR lines too) from late tonight.
For that reason alone, I can see why they’ve decided to cancel. Having said that, I’m not quite sure why the cancellation was required yesterday - they could still do it lunchtime today and it would have made more sense.
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@gt12 said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
(actually, the day after a typhoon is usually a cracker)
in my experience, fucking hot, and fucking still. And with the power out, not much to do except drink beer.
This World Cup is certainly turning out to be memorable anyway.
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If the NZ-Italy and England-France games were brought forward to today were there venues available to play in? The Stuff article says NZ were willing to do that but WR declined. There is only one game today so they could have been played at the same times.
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It would be really interesting to see how this affects things in the camps.
These Cup runs would have been planned to some very fine detail. Training loads, game minutes, specific work-ons and plans, all would have been built around 4 games in the time frames provided, with a view to be peaking for the next 3 weeks. For a couple of teams, that is out the window now.
England are probably happier than we are, as dropping a loseable, top-level test a week out from knock-outs is not a bad thing. We, however, have dropped a tune-up. The coaches would have based rotations and loads around 40-80 minutes of running around this week. You'll never get a straight answer, but i hope to read about it at some point.
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@gt12 said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
Also looks like Sunday will be fine (actually, the day after a typhoon is usually a cracker), assuming it moves at the predicted pace (which didn’t happen to the one last year and ended up making the damage worse).
We had one come back and hit us a second time in Hong Kong a day later. Created havoc. Aircraft all launched thinking it had gone, but no.
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@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@gt12 said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
Also looks like Sunday will be fine (actually, the day after a typhoon is usually a cracker), assuming it moves at the predicted pace (which didn’t happen to the one last year and ended up making the damage worse).
We had one come back and hit us a second time in Hong Kong a day later. Created havoc. Aircraft all launched thinking it had gone, but no.
They are not to be trusted.and the tail that comes through about 12 hours later can be brutal as well.
