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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
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    @Canes4life I disagree. As a fan, I see the potential of players that the Canes have signed. It's the coaches I'm disappointed in, because they don't give certain players game time. The Crusaders, Highlanders and (even the) Chiefs coaches do that better.

    In the not so distant past, players have moved from the Canes to other franchises because of lack of game time and became successful players. The Canes have players with the same potential as Jordan, Ennor, Bridge; the matter is, what are they doing (or are they going to do) with that potential. I fear for the likes of Flanders, Toala etc.

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    @Stargazer I'm happy with the guys the Canes have atm, it just doesn't help when some of your most experienced outsides in Milner Skudder and Aso spend most of their time in the injury bin, same goes with Lowe and Umaga Jensen but they aren't in the same calibre so haven't been missed as much.

    What players have moved from the Canes and have done better elsewhere recently?

    I'm just coming from the point of view that when you look at the players we have signed up moving forward, the lack of experience in some of those positions is fairly underwhelming when you compare it with the Crusaders roster - there is no point having a roster full of unproven potential.

    I'd rather the Canes search wider for more experienced talent and give guys like Toala more time to develop. In doing that though the coaches also need to find that balance of keeping consistency in selection but also blooding young guys in the odd game to showcase what they are made of - this is what the Crusaders do really well and are currently doing with Will Jordan atm.

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    I am sure you guys have heard the rumours about Jordie moving to the Crusaders to take that 12 spot because Beauden is taking the sabbatical in Japan and Jordie promised to play at the Canes while his brother was there.
    Not saying it is true just heard the Rumour
    Probably BS but adds to the conversation maybe .

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    replied to Chris on last edited by Canes4life
    #203

    @Chris where did you hear that?

    He seems a fairly loyal chap and outlines in the video below that he could have signed with the Crusaders 2 years ago and played with Scott but that was offset because he always wanted to be a Hurricane. I just don't see that changing.

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    Mate it’s been flying around for awhile some people in Canterbury rugby circles have mentioned it as I said no substance to it I can find .

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    @Chris fair enough. Hope it doesn't happen though - Crusaders are already strong enough.

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    @Canes4life you maybe right his GF is from Christchurch he enjoyed his time at Lincoln I only repeated the Rumour maybe someone else on the Fern can add to it either way
    In my opinion I don’t think the Crusaders need him they need to give regular game time to Ennor,Jordan etc Crotty Leaving maybe opens up a spot for Jordan at FB Havalli to 2nd five or Ennor to centre Goodhue to 2nd five

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    @Chris if Barrett moves to the Crusaders you might aswell just hand them the trophy. A backline of 9. Enari 10. Mo'unga 11. Bridge 12. Barrett 13. Goodhue 14. Ennor 15. Jordan - now that would be something else.

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    #208

    @Canes4life

    No space for Havili? He’d make a great catch if the Saders let him go. Can’t see it happening of course.

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    @gt12 he'd probably head offshore before signing elsewhere. They would probably have to release someone like Punivai.

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    @Canes4life

    If I were Ennor, I’d head home - that Blues 13 jersey would be his.

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    #211

    @Canes4life I don’t think for SR it would be a good thing the Crusaders have depth to cover Crotty leaving and have Dallas McLeod, or The younger Punivai to give a contract too .

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    @gt12 yeah but also forming a formidable backline with the likes of Jordan, Bridge, Mo'unga etc must be hard to turn down.

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    @Chris yeah 100% agree, it would turn alot of people outside of Canterbury off SR if that sort of thing happened.

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    @gt12 I don't see Havili leaving the Crusaders. They may move him to 12, but at this stage, he's still picked ahead of Jordan and I can't see them leaving Havili out of the 23, if he keeps playing like he does at the moment.

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    @Stargazer Pretty sure he is contracted to the Crusaders past 2019

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    @Chris Yes, through to 2021.

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    Haven’t really read the thread but you can stick Ennor in there for sure. A lot of talk about Jordan but I reckon Ennor has been the rookie back of the season. Oozes class.

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    @Canes4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    @Yeetyaah that one game where he started at 12 this year he looked rock solid and alot more natural in being that extra playmaker. His love of physicality suits him being in that position aswell. He's obviously unproven because he hasn't been given much of a chance there to show his prowess.

    Apart from his passing which was ropey.

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