Italy vs All Blacks
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@gunner said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Don’t get the hate for Naholo.
He’s not first choice, but he’s a handy back up. I though he was ok today. The game didn’t really go his way but he went looking for work.Agree with that assessment. The other thing is that if Ioane didn't play Naholo is the best option as the power winger.
Loved seeing Fifita bumping blokes off and making a few dominant tackles, good to know he can get amongst the physical stuff as well as run around blokes.
Fifita played much tighter than we all expected and did more of the hard work he says he doesn't enjoy. His runs were up the middle not on the flanks.
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@pukunui said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@pukunui said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@pukunui said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Sorry @pukunui but that's just bullshit about DMac, in this game and the whole tour. It's preconception not reality
Meh, just my opinion vs yours. I much prefer the cool, calm and collected style of Ben Smith at fullback. You know, Ben Smith, the best fullback in the world.
For me Dmac is better suited to the super sub role.That's not what you said though is it?
I said he is a massive question mark FOR ME. A massive question mark in the role they seem to be playing him in, which is starting fullback. You just read it as an attack and jumped to his defence.
I think it deserves defense when he has been arguably our best player on tour, and you're still trotting out 2017 cliches about team mates standing around wondering what he is going to do next.
After this tour i am happier with DMac 15 and B Smith at 14, than B Smith at 15 and ? at 14
I would agree that he has been better this year than last and I would have him in the 23 definitely.
However i don't see that he has eliminated those aspects enough to be the confirmed starting 15 at this stage.
He still runs sideways and still has guys around him not knowing where to put themselves to support. He is also not afraid to take a high risk option. You call it cliches, I call it observations.And i agree that Dmac 15, B Smith 14 might end up the best combination. However i don't think it is ideal and it may well change before the rwc. Hence the question mark.
Last night when he didn't run straight he was running into gaps ... his team matea seemed to know exactly what he was doing
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@cgrant said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Is Owen Franks still the best THP in NZ ?
From what I have seen this year's competitions and EOYT, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi and Ta'avao look better.Is Dan Carter still the best 1st 5?
Is McCaw still the best openside?
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@act-crusader said in Italy vs All Blacks:
@cgrant said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Is Owen Franks still the best THP in NZ ?
From what I have seen this year's competitions and EOYT, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi and Ta'avao look better.Is Dan Carter still the best 1st 5? No
Is McCaw still the best openside? No
Is Woodcock past it? YesJust in case these were serious questions ...
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@cgrant said in Italy vs All Blacks:
Is Owen Franks still the best THP in NZ ?
From what I have seen this year's competitions and EOYT, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi and Ta'avao look better.If referring to scrummaging, the answer is yes. Laulala also world class there.
Ofa an excellent all round prop, but not a top drawer starter. Angus developing well, and along with Hames (fitness permitting) will be in back ups for RWC.
For me, Ofa, Moody and Karl T our best ball carrying props.
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I noticed Laulala dropped off a number of tackles against Italy.
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@antipodean said in Italy vs All Blacks:
I noticed Laulala dropped off a number of tackles against Italy.
He was keeping his powder dry
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@sparky said in Italy vs All Blacks:
I hope none of them are heading to the Disabled Toilet with an Italian lady they met last night.....
I hope they are!! This is what you want from your professional sports men!
