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@rotated said in NH International Rugby:
@crucial said in NH International Rugby:
Who gives it to SA for picking with quotas?
Uh, Hansen just about every year we play SA.
2015
2016
Comments in 2017 for a book that came out this year.Henry and Mains have both been outspoken too, but only once outside the tent. Hansen has said it often enough, explicitly enough to where the NZRU either agree, or don't care to reign him in.
Hmmmm.
I don't agree with your interpretation of Hansen's comments as 'giving it to' SA for their policies. I see them as describing how tough it is for the Boks/Bok coaches (mainly from his insights chatting with his mate Meyer)
I see the comments in the book as describing how under the policies they don't necessarily select the best team they could.
Maybe we are just tripping over the language in the post.
The bit in your comment that I don't understand is why it hypocritical.
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I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
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@crucial said in NH International Rugby:
I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@crucial said in NH International Rugby:
I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.
I think Eddie ahs been heard to comment that he doesn't believe that the expansive game is in the DNA of the players. Not that they don't have the skillsets or desire just that the club footy low risk style doesn't create the instincts required.
He is probably correct in that they need to play the way that comes naturally but do it with the best players at the highest levels of execution.
Of course, we hope that the drawback to this style is that it relies on accumulating points from the boot and battering in the trenches. We keep showing that it is hard to do that for 80 minutes and as long as we stay close we can blow past in the final stanza -
@crucial said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@crucial said in NH International Rugby:
I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.
I think Eddie ahs been heard to comment that he doesn't believe that the expansive game is in the DNA of the players. Not that they don't have the skillsets or desire just that the club footy low risk style doesn't create the instincts required.
He is probably correct in that they need to play the way that comes naturally but do it with the best players at the highest levels of execution.
Of course, we hope that the drawback to this style is that it relies on accumulating points from the boot and battering in the trenches. We keep showing that it is hard to do that for 80 minutes and as long as we stay close we can blow past in the final stanzaSurely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.
They're there.
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@crucial said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@crucial said in NH International Rugby:
I have read reports that Eddie is looking at ditching the Ford/Farrell experiment for good and will be looking at a Farrell/Te'o/Tuilagi combo.
If that is the case he is giving up on trying to change England and going back to the direct style they are familiar with. Punching their way up-field until within kicking range or a misaligned defence offers an opportunity to go wide.
Back three of Ashton/May, Brown and Daly?Real shame. England have and will have the backs to execute both a 'truck it up' and expansive game plan.
I think Eddie ahs been heard to comment that he doesn't believe that the expansive game is in the DNA of the players. Not that they don't have the skillsets or desire just that the club footy low risk style doesn't create the instincts required.
He is probably correct in that they need to play the way that comes naturally but do it with the best players at the highest levels of execution.
Of course, we hope that the drawback to this style is that it relies on accumulating points from the boot and battering in the trenches. We keep showing that it is hard to do that for 80 minutes and as long as we stay close we can blow past in the final stanzaSurely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.
They're there.
TBF I think he has tried. Whether the recent loss rate has made him give up that approach or whether the players aren't up to it is the question.
I do think England (and Eddie) have been rather conservative with selections though and could have given the squads a huge shakeup in search of the game they could aspire to.
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Surely it's his job to recognise and pick the players who can evolve and adapt to his coaching style and aims.
They're there.That rules out the ones who played against Italy.
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Manu Tuilagi is set to return for England:
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@antipodean said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky Has he played any rugby in the last few years?
This is doing the rounds
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@mikethesnow They forgot to include this in that highlights real. Unreal defence on a big unit from BFA.
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@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow They forgot to include this in that highlights real. Unreal defence on a big unit from BFA.
Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌
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Seriously, great to see Manu Tuilagi back. At his best he is one of the most powerful attacking players in the world game.
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌
That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.
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@mooshld said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌en huge
That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.
Yep, even the supporting winger did exactly the right thing when the temptation not to bother going all the way round to the right side would have been huge.
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@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@mooshld said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Poetry in motion from BFA 👏👌en huge
That should be in some sort of rugby text book. There is no part of that, which isn't technically perfect.
Yep, even the supporting winger did exactly the right thing when the temptation not to bother going all the way round to the right side would have been huge.
That's because he was the fool that dropped the ball in the first place. Worst handling ever seen by CJ and he knew it.
When you make an error like that on the wing you have a massive incentive to fix it or face no end of shit from your teammates in post game sessions. -
Wales legendary prop Gethin Jenkins is set to retire at the weekend after 130+ international caps and a long club career with Cardiff Blues and Toulon:
He retires as the 4th most capped Rugby international, behind GOAT, BOD and George Gregan.
Cheers, Gethin, and best wishes for your post-playing career.