2018 Football World Cup
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
Danes 7th min goal sends them into big-boy-fuck-around-on-halfway mode, drives me nuts, soccer needs a bball over and back rule. Or once goalie releases ball his team has 5 seconds to get the fucker over halfway line. Otherwise free kick. Or electric shock. Or paintball gun 10 second free-for-all c/o 4th official
Straya good value. Bit unco with the whole ball control thing at times though
@kiwipie said in 2018 Football World Cup:
I'm fascinated by the battle for the Golden Bastard. Early front runners are Pepe, Ramos, Suarez and Diego Costa given their histories but please nominate any others who make a strong case.
what are criteria. Belgiums Fellaini seems to have a lot of bastard in him.
Neymar/Ronaldo seem more of a Golden piston wristed gibbon ilk than technically a bastard.
Sergio Ramos is Lord of the Bastards. But you'd still want him on your team
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Just popped in to mention this I heard on the Peru Vs France commentary.
"17% of the goals so far at the world cup have come in the last 15 minutes. So a lot of late scoring."
That's right, slightly less than 1/6th of the goals have come in the last 1/6th of the match. That's a lot of late scoring.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
Arg 0
Croatia 3Modric with 35 yarder goal of tourney contender. First goal top shit too
Arg were all kinds of shit. Constantly getting their half-drunk passes intercepted in attacking third. Think Messi's gonna run in to space? Think again. If the ball's not delivered on a gilded chariot of feathers right to his heavenly feet you can go and get fucked. NO player at the WC runs less when not in possession. Even 5 GOALIES run more
LEAST average km run a match:
Gylfi Sigurdsson, Iceland 6.67
Emil Hallfredsson, Iceland 6.41
Yuri Gazinskiy, Russia 6.11
Ellyes Skhiri, Tunisia 6.06
Aleksandr Golovin, Russia 5.94
Khadim Ndiaye, Senegal 1.99
Jaime Penedo, Panama 1.99
Yann Sommer, Switzerland 1.91
Ahmed El-Shenawy, Egypt 1.79
Rui PatrĂcio, Portugal 1.78 (all fucken goalies)
Lionel Messi, Argentina 1.42Arg with about 3 shots on target and Aguero on the bench. Oh yeah, their coach Angry Anderson of Rose Tattoo has a plan
Is this fair dinkum?? That truly is incredible. I never knew he was so lazy
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
I would guess Messi's horrific body language scared his Argie teammates almost more than the Croatian players did. Walking about with shoulders almost comically slumped. Standing stock still. He just did not want to fuckign know. Will hiff petrol on the bonfiring GOAT narrative though.
"Messi's spent his entire career getting the princeling armchair ride at club level Barcelona against a revolving cardboard cutout gallery of shit defenders from some fuckhead Spanish fishing town."
"At least Portugal's plasticene Jesus marionette slogs his guts out for his national team."Was going to ask if Messi ever achieved anything at International level?
Don’t ever recall him setting a WC on fire.
Like you said, you can Ronaldo shit about how he prances about and can’t walk past any reflection of himself without stopping to look, but least he gives it his all for Portugal -
@virgil said in 2018 Football World Cup:
@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
I would guess Messi's horrific body language scared his Argie teammates almost more than the Croatian players did. Walking about with shoulders almost comically slumped. Standing stock still. He just did not want to fuckign know. Will hiff petrol on the bonfiring GOAT narrative though.
"Messi's spent his entire career getting the princeling armchair ride at club level Barcelona against a revolving cardboard cutout gallery of shit defenders from some fuckhead Spanish fishing town."
"At least Portugal's plasticene Jesus marionette slogs his guts out for his national team."Was going to ask if Messi ever achieved anything at International level?
Don’t ever recall him setting a WC on fire.
Like you said, you can Ronaldo shit about how he prances about and can’t walk past any reflection of himself without stopping to look, but least he gives it his all for PortugalI think he's only one a South American championship once? I don't recall him playing a major role in the last WC final they lost to Germany
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@canefan said in 2018 Football World Cup:
Online commentary says Aussie drew level with a dubious penalty
Nothing dubious about it, clear handball. The ref took a little while to check it but got the correct result in the end. Awesome to see Aus get the draw and stay alive in the competition.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
my current GOAT narrative:
1 Richie
2 Kareem
3 Bill Russell
4 Lebron
5 MJ
6 Magic
7 DC
8 MJ (obviously Michael Jones)
9 Maradona
10 Pele
11 Ronaldo
12 MessiMessi not even Top 10. Poor.
No Gretsky?
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@hooroo said in 2018 Football World Cup:
@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
my current GOAT narrative:
1 Richie
2 Kareem
3 Bill Russell
4 Lebron
5 MJ
6 Magic
7 DC
8 MJ (obviously Michael Jones)
9 Maradona
10 Pele
11 Ronaldo
12 MessiMessi not even Top 10. Poor.
No Gretsky?
If you have Magic, no place for Larry Legend?
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
my current GOAT narrative:
1 Richie
2 Kareem
3 Bill Russell
4 Lebron
5 MJ
6 Magic
7 DC
8 MJ (obviously Michael Jones)
9 Maradona
10 Pele
11 Ronaldo
12 MessiMessi not even Top 10. Poor.
Are we just talking football rugby and basketball Rocky? Might be an interesting thread
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
@kiwipie said in 2018 Football World Cup:
the battle for the Golden Bastard.
My current order of Golden Bastardry:
Diego Costa: Perfect pantomime villain. He always scores. He always wins. He always fucks someone's shit up. He never gets carded for it. Did I mention he always wins. The perfect bastard.
Ramos: Total sly filth. He also always wins
Pepe: don't know much about this guy but that dive after a friendly pat on the shoulder is indicative of Utter Bastardry
Suarez; Ticking timebomb. A mental. Histrionic diva. Will try to eat you.
Fellaini: Grandmaster of elbowing you in the fucking face
Fernandinho (Bra): Sly filth. Grandmaster of leaving a foot in.
Otamendi (Arg): Put his hand up today vs Croatia by trying to kick the ball into a prone players face from point-blank range after the whistle had gone. Of course, he missed.Pepe and Suarez have a good decade's worth of complete bastardry. In a sport filled with morally corrupt, these guys stand out, which is some achievement.
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@rocky-rockbottom said in 2018 Football World Cup:
@kiwipie said in 2018 Football World Cup:
what are criteria. Belgiums Fellaini seems to have a lot of bastard in him.Neymar/Ronaldo seem more of a Golden piston wristed gibbon ilk than technically a bastard.
Fellaini is just a thug - to be a contender for the Golden Bastard you need to be a
- A thug
- A wimpy diving cheat
- A first choice in a top team
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fuck this extraordinarily harsh on Messi. He has carried that team for years. The only reason they are at the World Cup is because he scored 3 in one of the final games to get them there. The rest of the roster is fucking shit. Aguero is the other name guy, and he does fuck all unless it's layed on for him by de Bruyne or Silva. The rest of the team? Mascherano was good. 8 years ago. Who else is there? This isn't 1980s Argentina, this is 9 shit players, Messi, and a poacher.
And every coach knows it, so basically Messi gets it with 3 guys on him. Which should open the game for his team mates, but they are shit house.
Di Maria played the first game, and was deplorable, so they dropped him. And guess what? The other guy was shit too.
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That was pathetic from Messi - he was literally on a Sunday afternoon stroll for most of the game and you have to work like buggery to make space for yourself against a team as well organised as Croatia. Argentina really struggled to progress up the pitch and it was Peres(?) who needed to slot that open goal to give them a chance.
0-0 wouldn't have been a disaster for Argentina until Caballero's howler put a stop to that - straight from the Karius school of keeping. But even before then, that defence looked very dodgy and responded very badly to any pressing. Modric's goal was a thing of beauty - what a fantastic player he has been for the past decade. With him and Rakitic in midfield, they have to be a chance to get to the quarters.
3rd goal was symbolic of a team self-destructing and about to turn on itself.
As for Messi at World Cups, he was player of the tournament in 2010. Marginal but influential in 2014. He really looks like he hates playing for Argentina.
France v Peru game was entertaining - it's a shame Peru has no goals and no points as there is a lot to like about them. France looked better than against Australia. Kante is freakish when you focus on him - at one point he played a cross field pass from the left touchline which was intercepted by the Peruvian left back who carried it forward only to be immediately dispossessed by Kante - I was convinced there are 2 of him. He must have absolutely motored across the pitch immediately after playing the pass. It's similar to Richie at his peak - he seemed to be omnipresent on the field.
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Ravshan Irmatov is not Argentina's favourite ref but they can have no excuse in this game. If anything, he was restrained and could have sent a player off from each team for terrible tackles.
Speaking of refs:
Nigeria – Iceland (tomorrow)
Referee: Matthew Conger (NZL)
Assistant Referee 1: Simon Lount (NZL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tevita Makasini (TGA)
Fourth Official: Ricardo Montero (CRC)
Reserve AR: Hiroshi Yamauchi (JPN) -
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@canefan I was thinking that after I posted - probably would have been better for them in the long term as well as they could have built a team without him. Main problem is that all their gun players are forwards (Aguero, Higuain, Di Maria, Dybala, Messi, Icardi) and they are seriously short of defenders, wide players and midfielders.
