Blues win percentage against NZ teams
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@kirwan said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
@african-monkey said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
1 win out of our last 27 against NZ teams aint bad.
Quite the Australian level stat that.
Speaking of Australian, bring back Nucifora, at least they’d be a finals contender
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This is the most depressing tracker
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Wynne Gray must be reading the fern, got his stick out to stir a bit at the end there too. Drop the Blues!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12088758
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@snowy said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
@jegga said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
Ah , what I like to call the schadenfreude thread .
There actually hasn't been a lot of gloating - mostly just us Blues guys wallowing in our own misery.
Twenty odd years back I moved to Auckland, when it was towards the end of its enormous run of victories. Back then far too many Aucklanders were saying that their dominance was good for NZ. I heard many argue that "strong Auckland means strong All Blacks", as if we should all not just lose to them, but enjoy losing.
The ARU gloated about how it's systems ensured that they remained on top. They refused to accept that it was largely due to three very good coaches in a row, and that one wrong move might bring it all down.
I built up a sizeable dislike for Auckland rugby, whereas I had previously grudging admired how good they were. I never ever felt the same way about Canterbury and the Crusader dominance because they never gloated half so much. Sure they tend to over-rate their players who get an armchair ride, but they never acted as if they had a right to win.
As a result, although I largely kept it to myself, I have thoroughly enjoyed the drop in fortunes of Auckland and The Blues. It has given me great joy every time they finished down the table. Especially as the All Blacks have gotten better as they have got worse.
But even I have now had enough. It's no longer fun.
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@chester-draws what’s worse is the incredible lack of accountability from the administration that they are big part of the problem.
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@chester-draws said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
But even I have now had enough. It's no longer fun.
It's going to be O.K. because I have been informed that next year is our year!
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@snowy said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
@chester-draws said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
But even I have now had enough. It's no longer fun.
It's going to be O.K. because I have been informed that next year is our year!
NO THIS IS OUR YEAR
oh. wait. yeah, ok Next Year it is. The mythical year that never comes.
to be fair, an ounce of luck and less injuries early on - or some decent coaching- and we might not go into the Lam Death Spiral that we have been in for ever.
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@nzzp said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
@snowy said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
@chester-draws said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
But even I have now had enough. It's no longer fun.
It's going to be O.K. because I have been informed that next year is our year!
NO THIS IS OUR YEAR
oh. wait. yeah, ok Next Year it is. The mythical year that never comes.
to be fair, an ounce of luck and less injuries early on - or some decent coaching- and we might not go into the Lam Death Spiral that we have been in for ever.
Actually they extended Tana for another year - SO 2020 IS OUR YEAR! Or maybe a year sometime after that. It has already been forever, as mentioned,
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@nzzp said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
to be fair, an ounce of luck and less injuries early on - or some decent coaching- and we might not go into the Lam Death Spiral that we have been in for ever.
quoting myself, but fark it
I remember the start of this shit. We were leading the Canes at home, and just dropped our bundle, kicked it back to them instead of clearing, and just stopped tackling. That was the start of losing a whole shed load on the bounce with Lam, which led to him getting the boot, and the start of our Celebrity Coach Era.
FML.
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@nzzp confidence plays a huge part, and if you get down early on it is tough to get out of, especially if you are trying different systems you start questioning them, falling back to old habits and it just keeps getting worSe.
I always wonder how teams like Scotland, Argentina, Samoa etc go about preparing for a game against the ABs...you surely go into every game wanting to win, but knowing this is highly unlikely, how do you approach it?
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@taniwharugby said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
I always wonder how teams like Scotland, Argentina, Samoa etc go about preparing for a game against the ABs...you surely go into every game wanting to win, but knowing this is highly unlikely, how do you approach it?
the way the Irish did in Chicago - stay aggressive, just stay upbeat and put a shedload of pressure on, hope the opposition is slightly off their game.
but yeah, it's tough. Hence my comment earlier - a bit of luck early in the season, and fewer injuries in key positions certainly helps out. Also, picking the worlds' best wing on the wing could be a good idea
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@nzzp and the opposition playing people out of position...but yeah, tapping into what Schmidt did differently or how he got them to believe (especially after that overtime escape the ABs had made when Ireland shoulda won) they could achieve something so many before hadn't.
I also think our RWC failures were in part due to our top 2 inches, think of all the greats of our game that had failed to win a RWC, and then you have these other teams preparing to win with that legacy of failure weighing on them.
That Adidas slogan soon after they picked up the AB sponsorship: The Legacy you face is more intimidating than any opposition
And that works both ways!
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@duluth What seemed strange to me is not that Tana was forced to use Ioane in the midfield, but that he was played at 12 while Leger was played at 13 - when switching them seemed more logical.
But, if SBW and Moala are injured and Leger has dropped from sight - who else is an option at 12 now?
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@chris-b said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:
But, if SBW and Moala are injured and Leger has dropped from sight - who else is an option at 12 now?
Tumua Manu, who incidentally has been playing 12 in Auckland club rugby after dropping from sight. In his few opportunities this year (on the wing) he didn't put a foot wrong.
