Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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@sidbarret its good to see a chippy Saffer on here. You sorted your shit out after a very ordinary showing in the first test, and reaped the rewards of some good cricket.
Let's hope Rabada's brain explosions are kept to a minimum in future OR that he manages to set a record for most number of reports before actually being banned! That would be a sight to see.
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@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@sidbarret its good to see a chippy Saffer on here. You sorted your shit out after a very ordinary showing in the first test, and reaped the rewards of some good cricket.
Let's hope Rabada's brain explosions are kept to a minimum in future OR that he manages to set a record for most number of reports before actually being banned! That would be a sight to see.
You mean they sorted their shit out after Australia stopped using sandpaper to polish the ball?
Im sure Rabada is a good bloke off the field and knows where the line is.
This is fun.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12025434
I don't think this is even rock bottom. Now the tour is over the media will focus on the players' appeal of the CA sentences, and Davey will contemplate how much money he can get by nuking his ties to CA and lifting the lid on matters inside the team. Cricket Oz are getting their just desserts. You raise this guy to be your attack dog, you encourage him to be that guy then when you kneecap him and try to make him the scapegoat for the entire fiasco he turns on you instead of quietly disappearing. What did they think would happen?
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The reason for my chippiness is that I found the whole whinge fest about SA's second innings to be a crock of shit. People were calling for a declaration not because they thought it was the best way to win the game but because they were bored because they wasn't competitive.
The game not being competitive because by the fourth test Australia was a bit shit.
Were the SA bowlers injured? Probably not much, but 4 tests in 33 days were taking its toll on both teams. Australia would want to have a look at their fast bowling depth after this series. Starc wasn't right after the first test and should probably have been tested for the second and third tests, but Bird and Sayers failed to impress so there is a slot open in the greater squad going forward.
Did Fat do the right thing to bat on on day four, hindsight suggests he did and the rest it afforded the SA bowlers and the fatigue of Ozzie bats contributed to an absolute towelling.
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@sidbarret important to note that all whinging or complaining about the declaration raises some valid points re spectator appeal
However
Any dissonance is completely trumped and rendered hot air by the longstanding cricket maxim that you can bat how you want (within the laws of course) and if the fielding team don't like it, tough shit, bowl 'em out.
Respect of opponents occurs when you're losing too, SK Warne ( fuck he was prattling on like last week never happened)
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@barbarian said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
We've heard the "spirit of cricket" thing before. And it lasts as long as the results do. As you say, if the loses start against India (of all fucking teams) then the drums are going to beat, and the leashes will be off. Snarling fast bowlers might be the most iconic Aussie sporting icon. Muzzled ones will only last as long as the wickets do.
True. I think defining 'the line' would be a good start.
But the problems run much deeper. In Australia, cricket just isn't a game where you have a beer and a laugh with the opposition after a game. Not at club level, not at district level, not at any level. It's the polar opposite to rugby in that regard.
The toughness, the sledging, the hard edge is bred in at a very young age. So expecting people to turn away from it when they get to the pinnacle of the game is completely misguided.
Any changes have to be broad and systemic, touching all parts of the game.
I fear you may be over-complicating this.
Giving up the obsession and self-proclaimed custody of the line is the start and end of it really.
There is no appetite to remove the agro or mongrel from the Australian sporting psyche. Australians don’t want it and as an opposition fan I sure as hell don’t want it.
By all means keep the aggressive, front running, cocky, won’t have drinks after the game attitude. That is Australia’s go. The players simply shut up and stop proselytizing and complaining.
By the same token I don't really like the praise NZ is getting for being the bastion of fair play and sportsmanship. We shouldn't want that mantle and it's only setting us up for a fall.
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@sidbarret said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The reason for my chippiness is that I found the whole whinge fest about SA's second innings to be a crock of shit. People were calling for a declaration not because they thought it was the best way to win the game but because they were bored because they wasn't competitive.
Faf did exactly the right thing IMO. A series win against Australia in his hands - why wouldn't you just bat them out of the game. Exactly what I would have done. Steve Waugh would've too.
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@rotated said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
By the same token I don't really like the praise NZ is getting for being the bastion of fair play and sportsmanship. We shouldn't want that mantle and it's only setting us up for a fall.
Agreed. People will judge you by the parameters you set, as interpreted by them. Better to just be nice rather than say that's how you want to play.
@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Let's hope Rabada's brain explosions are kept to a minimum in future OR that he manages to set a record for most number of reports before actually being banned! That would be a sight to see.
I just don't understand the need to send a batsman off. You've taken his wicket, treat him with contempt and ignore him.
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@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If he does that interview, he might make $1M short term but get the arse from pretty much everything else for life.
Shut up and cricket.
I'd happily take a cool million to never play cricket again.
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@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If he does that interview, he might make $1M short term but get the arse from pretty much everything else for life.
Shut up and cricket.
I think he believes he has already got the arse from pretty much all cricket.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@nta said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If he does that interview, he might make $1M short term but get the arse from pretty much everything else for life.
Shut up and cricket.
I think he believes he has already got the arse from pretty much all cricket.
I don't know who instigated the IPL ban but I don't think he takes action if he can still play the circuit
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@baron-silas-greenback yeah, certainly looks that way - baby with the bathwater
I wonder if he's reading between the lines or something more concrete.
It's only a story about punishment at the moment, but (like Smith's will be) it could easily be one of redemption in 12 months time.
Burning bridges is a bit drastic.
Everyone goes through life changing calamities ( divorce, cancer,redundancies, deaths etc). He should be thankful his is only a year of disruption.
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Pretty sure Indian cricket ditched all 3 from IPL - will be interesting if they appeal and are successful in reducing their sanctions. Not sure if that will reopen any closed doors for 20/20 circuits.
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I'm not so sure it will be a bridge burning exercise. If i was in charge of his PR, i would be getting a soft interview where is sit beside my wife, and we talk about the intense pressure that built up around their relationship. I would talk about a brain snap brought about by an angry response to get back at an entire country who was targeting my family, and drove me to make a massive mistake.
I would paint a picture of a family pushed to depression by unsavory events, and how i deeply regret my actions that followed.
I reckon you could paint a pretty sympathetic picture out of that, and pave the way for a redemption story.
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@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I'm not so sure it will be a bridge burning exercise. If i was in charge of his PR, i would be getting a soft interview where is sit beside my wife, and we talk about the intense pressure that built up around their relationship. I would talk about a brain snap brought about by an angry response to get back at an entire country who was targeting my family, and drove me to make a massive mistake.
I would paint a picture of a family pushed to depression by unsavory events, and how i deeply regret my actions that followed.
I reckon you could paint a pretty sympathetic picture out of that, and pave the way for a redemption story.
Choked back a wee tear just at the thought................
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