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@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
People feeling sorry for this team should reacquaint themselves with our innings in the 2015 CWC final.
Haddin in particular was a grade A fluffybunny that day. They were so much better than us in that match, there was no need for the vitriol
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@donsteppa said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The reaction of current and former players to Warner on twitter has been notably different to the other two all week
I was playing for England against Australia in a one-day international in Sydney and I had just been dismissed for a second-ball duck, lbw to Mitchell Starc. As I was walking off, head down, David Warner charged over and screamed abuse in my face.
I don’t need to repeat what he said, but that story from 2015 is enough to explain why a lot of cricketers around the world have little or no sympathy after hearing Warner had been suspended for 12 months. Many of them will feel this is a classic case of cricketing karma. As soon as you get personal on the field, you will find yourself with enemies.
'Smith and Warner used to mock opponents — many will feel it is karma'
I was playing for England against Australia in a one-day international in Sydney and I had just been dismissed for a second-ball duck, lbw to Mitchell Starc. As I was walking off, head down, David Warner charged over and screamed abuse in my face.
Thanks for posting that. I was beginning to feel sorry for them ...
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@canefan said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
People feeling sorry for this team should reacquaint themselves with our innings in the 2015 CWC final.
Haddin in particular was a grade A fluffybunny that day. They were so much better than us in that match, there was no need for the vitriol
Only that day?
He was like that every day I saw him play.
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@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Easy to forget if Warner and co had managed to get away with this and done it again (and again) and it was successful
Their cheating could have ended careers.
Their mental disintegration approach has been incredibly ruthless, it has ended several careers.
The English alone have lost several high profile players who went from being very successful to a shadow of their former selves. They have taken much delight and glee from breaking down other teams. ( Jonathon Trott anyone?)
That gets all forgotten about when they hold a press conference and bawl their eyes out.They have brought this on themselves.
Exactly. Fuck them all and their X Factor bawling
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@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Smart move by Warner to face the media for the first time with his wife and girls
Hard to kick him further when he’s holding one of his little girls.I hate him even more for that. He's effectively using them as a shield. Cowardly tosser.
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@majorrage said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Absolutely magnificent PR by team Smith.
Perfection.
You'll fall for anything.
Here's what should have been said
'As Aussies we're raised to be winners.
But I lost sight of our values and resorted to winning at any cost.
For that I will be enternally sorry.
I accept my punishment and if I ever get another chance to represent my country I will do so to the best of my ability, within the rules, win lose or draw."
Exit stage left.
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@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Lehman goes.
Real talk, I've had a bit of fun with this over the last couple of days, it's been a good bit of chat about a sporting controversy.
But Jesus Christ this is fucking ridiculous. I fucking feel for all of them now, even warner. It's fucking ball tampering, not match fixing. Get a grip.
I don't get the sanctimony in the aussie press at all. Suddenly the "hard edge" is a stick to beat them with, but was celebrated not a couple of months ago. Get fucked.
I guess I'm not surprised at the severity of the sentences - I thought it would be either six months or a year.
I follow your point comparing ball tampering with match fixing, but in my mind they're somewhat in the same ballpark (not the crazy dismissals of that video a month or so ago where a whole team is throwing the match), but the Hansie Cronje/ Lou Vincent type of fixing where a couple of guys in a team are conscripted to throw their wickets away. Main difference is that the Aussies were doing it for the team not for their direct personal enrichment.
Maybe it's closer (ballpark) to having several players in a rugby team caught using PEDs. Basically it's premeditated cheating to try to give your team a significant advantage. As someone points out above, the immediate follow-up (tape rather than sandpaper, etc) wasn't flash either.
I can understand the anger in Oz as well. It's a bit like if a group of ABs were caught using PEDs - it kind of invalidates some of what has gone before and some of what will happen in the future - at least in terms of internet/media "banter". Every time the Aussies win, there will be "check the ball" comments somewhere. I'd be fucking furious if it was the ABs or the Black Caps.
And to avoid calls of naivety - I'd already be amazed if there had never been a single AB who has used PEDs - and the same goes for every other major international team.
Years ago I worked for a bank and probably knew/knew of about 300 various staff, of whom nine were sacked for fingers in the till. There's a proportion of cheats in the population.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Smart move by Warner to face the media for the first time with his wife and girls
Hard to kick him further when he’s holding one of his little girls.I hate him even more for that. He's effectively using them as a shield. Cowardly tosser.
100% agree. Dragging his wee girls in front of the cameras as props to garner sympathy is beyond disgusting. This is about YOUR cheating, and YOUR bad behaviour on the field, you fucking asshole. Your teammates stood up and took it.
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@mokey said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Smart move by Warner to face the media for the first time with his wife and girls
Hard to kick him further when he’s holding one of his little girls.I hate him even more for that. He's effectively using them as a shield. Cowardly tosser.
100% agree. Dragging his wee girls in front of the cameras as props to garner sympathy is beyond disgusting. This is about YOUR cheating, and YOUR bad behaviour on the field, you fucking asshole. Your teammates stood up and took it.
That comment shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the line.
See there is this line.
Getting stuck into Davey about his Mrs on the field? That is absolutely over the line. They aren’t a part of the game, they didn’t ask to be involved - leave them out of this.
Davey has been caught cheating in an on field incident? Quick get the wife and kids, see if we can get granny Warner out of the nursing home too. Using your wife and kids as a shield in the media is absolutely within the line.
Your comment criticizing him for using his wife and kids like this is most certainly over the line. Leave them out of this.
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@mikethesnow sorry, I'll fall for anything?
I think I'm one of the very few that hasn't.
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The level of vitriol towards Warner in this thread is ugly....and revealing. Some posters have shown they are cut from the same cloth as the man they are raging about.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The level of vitriol towards Warner in this thread is ugly....and revealing. Some posters have shown they are cut from the same cloth as the man they are raging about.
Can't speak for the others here, but I never ran up to a dismissed batsman and yelled abuse straight in his face nor did I ever cheat. I would also never consider using my kids to shield me from a shit storm that was entirely my own making.
Warner is a cnut. Simply pointing that out does not then make someone a cnut themselves. That's weird logic right there.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The level of vitriol towards Warner in this thread is ugly....and revealing. Some posters have shown they are cut from the same cloth as the man they are raging about.
Can't speak for the others here, but I never ran up to a dismissed batsman and yelled abuse straight in his face nor did I ever cheat. I would also never consider using my kids to shield me from a shit storm that was entirely my own making.
Warner is a cnut. Simply pointing that out does not then make someone a cnut themselves. That's weird logic right there.
If it was simply a case of pointing that out....then you would be right. But it isnt.
I think Warner is in all a nasty peice of work on thd field. But I can see context and scale. -
@baron-silas-greenback And for the record I have spoken to someone who has played with and against Warner about the very topic of sledging and abuse. And he is indeed pretty feral. Off the field he is apparently a bloody nice guy and less arrogant than most of his teamates. But nothing more than a number of other players. He just gets pumped on the field and crosses the line more often than others.
The reaction to him over this is disgusting and more feral than Warner. -
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The level of vitriol towards Warner in this thread is ugly....and revealing. Some posters have shown they are cut from the same cloth as the man they are raging about.
Can't speak for the others here, but I never ran up to a dismissed batsman and yelled abuse straight in his face nor did I ever cheat. I would also never consider using my kids to shield me from a shit storm that was entirely my own making.
Warner is a cnut. Simply pointing that out does not then make someone a cnut themselves. That's weird logic right there.
If it was simply a case of pointing that out....then you would be right. But it isnt.
I think Warner is in all a nasty peice of work on thd field. But I can see context and scale.What would be appropriate context and scale on this thread? Can you give examples of where this line was crossed? I don't see how the abuse he is copping here is any worse than any other sportsman who get shit on TSF.
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I haven't seen any posters say that Davey's wife mum or sister are bush pigs. Even during the fuss over his wife I didn't read any rude comments directly aimed at her, I didn't for example read anyone say she was a slut or whore for example. I think it's safe to say we've all stayed behind the line Warner crossed with Quinton de Kock
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The level of vitriol towards Warner in this thread is ugly....and revealing. Some posters have shown they are cut from the same cloth as the man they are raging about.
Can't speak for the others here, but I never ran up to a dismissed batsman and yelled abuse straight in his face nor did I ever cheat. I would also never consider using my kids to shield me from a shit storm that was entirely my own making.
Warner is a cnut. Simply pointing that out does not then make someone a cnut themselves. That's weird logic right there.
If it was simply a case of pointing that out....then you would be right. But it isnt.
I think Warner is in all a nasty peice of work on thd field. But I can see context and scale.What would be appropriate context and scale on this thread? Can you give examples of where this line was crossed? I don't see how the abuse he is copping here is any worse than any other sportsman who get shit on TSF.
No. Read back for yourself. If you still think this is still a appropriate level of vitriol... good on ya.
