Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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bit of a clusterfuck all round, this tour has made alot of headlines.
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So did Bancroft confess when confronted by the umpires on the field and that's why Steve Smith had to admit it in the press conference?
I'm not surprised by the cheating, it's the fact they have so easily given up trying to spin their way out of it. That's not the Australia I know....
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Ha ha doully's got yellow tape on in the tea break show 😁
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Doull has a point, Aus are far from the only team that has done this. The English "shining" the ball on the zips on their pants, players using mints to shine the ball etc.
This seems more blatent and they've been caught red handed, but it's a part of the game that has been there since the start.
If they wany to crack down on it then they need to start consistently handing out serious punishments for all forms of tampering.
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@no-quarter said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Doull has a point, Aus are far from the only team that has done this. The English "shining" the ball on the zips on their pants, players using mints to shine the ball etc.
This seems more blatent and they've been caught red handed, but it's a part of the game that has been there since the start.
If they wany to crack down on it then they need to start consistently handing out serious punishments for all forms of tampering.
Some of the outrage I have seen is a little over the top. It's cheating - Smith should be sacked as captain and others should be banned for a few games. It's not one of cricket's darkest days though. Faf Du Plessis has done a similar thing and there is little outrage. Obviously his actions weren't as premeditated but he still denied it after being caught red handed. Definitely the players shouldn't be banned by the ICC for more than a couple of games. What CA does is up to them.
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I am struggling to generate much outrage tbh
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If the captain of an international sporting team conspiracing to cheat with 3 or 4 other team mates ( and likely the coach too) doesn’t cause outrage for you I’m not sure what can
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Only so many threads to spread the outrage over? 🎣
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@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If the captain of an international sporting team conspiracing to cheat with 3 or 4 other team mates ( and likely the coach too) doesn’t cause outrage for you I’m not sure what can
Child abuse, inheritance taxes. 2 examples off the bat
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@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
ng caught red handed. Definitely the players shouldn't be banned by the ICC for more than a couple of games. What CA does is up to them.
There is a difference between shining a ball and damaging it in order to artificially produce reverse swing.
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@baron-silas-greenback if that's the bar this sort of thing wouldn't make the top hundred... or even top thousand depending on how itemized you got. Almost worth not even posting about.
Unless you're in a sports forum of course
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If the captain of an international sporting team conspiracing to cheat with 3 or 4 other team mates ( and likely the coach too) doesn’t cause outrage for you I’m not sure what can
Child abuse, inheritance taxes. 2 examples off the bat
Wrong forum then, definitely the wrong thread
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@paekakboyz said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback if that's the bar this sort of thing wouldn't make the top hundred... or even top thousand depending on how itemized you got. Almost worth not even posting about.
Unless you're in a sports forum of course
Except it was asked what outraged me. I answered. I think a lot of people just see it is an Australian so dial up the faux outrage to maximum. Similar things have been done in he past. Nowhere near this level of vitriol.
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@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If the captain of an international sporting team conspiracing to cheat with 3 or 4 other team mates ( and likely the coach too) doesn’t cause outrage for you I’m not sure what can
Child abuse, inheritance taxes. 2 examples off the bat
Wrong forum then, definitely the wrong thread
You wondered. I informed .
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@baron-silas-greenback you might not be outraged but this is going to forever be a black mark on Steve Smith's career.
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@kiwimurph said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@baron-silas-greenback you might not be outraged but this is going to forever be a black mark on Steve Smith's career.
Sure it will. Partly because of what he did, but mostly because it was an Aussie that did it. And it happened in a high profile and contentious series
Other captains have ball tampered. ..can you remember them all. I can't
Aussies are outraged out of embarrassment. ... everyone else just loves kicking Aussie cricketers. Smells like a lynch mob... -
@pn said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
ng caught red handed. Definitely the players shouldn't be banned by the ICC for more than a couple of games. What CA does is up to them.
There is a difference between shining a ball and damaging it in order to artificially produce reverse swing.
Faf defended the lolly charge but admitted to trying to damage the ball by rubbing it against his zipper.
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@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@pn said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
ng caught red handed. Definitely the players shouldn't be banned by the ICC for more than a couple of games. What CA does is up to them.
There is a difference between shining a ball and damaging it in order to artificially produce reverse swing.
Faf defended the lolly charge but admitted to trying to damage the ball by rubbing it against his zipper.
England also did that.
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@baron-silas-greenback Agreed.
Part of the 'Aussie that did it' factor is the status that cricket has in Australia (and therefore the Australian cricket captain has) and the status that Australia has in the cricketing world.
As the captain of Australia you should know all of this. Baggy green, Don Bradman etc etc.
So it is hard to have any sympathy for Smith.
Its comparable to the outrage an All Black captain would receive who did something vs an Argie rugby captain who did the same thing. The AB captain would receive much more outrage I would imagine.
