Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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@antipodean said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
SBW is probably too classy these days to give her a wink at breakfast.
@jegga breakfasts with the stars, he might.
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@snowy said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@antipodean said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
SBW is probably too classy these days to give her a wink at breakfast.
@jegga breakfasts with the stars, he might.
God no, here we go yet again..
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I've been thinking a bit more about sledging, and thought I'd post here since all of my friends and family just roll their eyeballs when I start talking.
To put it bluntly, a lot of the more vociferous criticism of sledgers and sledging comes from non-cricketers (not here- in the general media). And that matters, because if you have never played cricket (even at a very low level) then you can never really understand.
It's a game where 90% of the time, nothing is happening. Talk in the field is essential, to prevent your own insanity more than anything.
It's also a game that is 90% mental. Yes technique is important, but the thing that separates the good from the great is mental fortitude. And that's why talk in the field can be so useful in breaking a batsman's focus, even for a second.
But the paradox in the sledging debate, IMO, is this - screaming obscenities at the batsman is the least effective form of sledging. Anyone who has played knows this.
You can describe to me in great detail how you had relations with a close female relative, and it probably won't get to me. But you point out my inability to play an attacking shot in front of the wicket? You analyse my weakness against anything on my pads? Well fuck now you are in my head.
And that's why I'm more bemused than appalled when Warner goes off at a batsman. Because apart from being a really bad look, it's bad tactics. It's wasted oxygen. De Kock scored 80-odd. Makram scored a ton. It didn't work, because it never does.
That's the true stupidity of Warner and what he does.
But it's also why cricket is such a great game. Because even in the 90% of time when nothing happens, something is happening. And the loudest sledgers are often the worst.
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To me the best sledges are the ones that play on a particular weakness of the guy your sledging. If he’s a bunny to a certain bowler in your team then you keep easily chip away at his confidence by reminding him that so and so is warming up and will be bowling to him soon. You can also remind him of how he was dismissed in the previous innings or match.
Screaming your sister or mrs is a slut or a pig is like you said, just stupid and a waste of oxygen.
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@barbarian that's my take on it too
Talk about the batsmans cricket. You don't have to talk to the batsman to sow the seed of doubt.
Sledging to players as a means to gain a competitive edge is reduced to total failure if and when you lose.
You win or lose by performing cricket skills better than an opponent.
The effect of " mental degradation" is only apparent in hindsight when winning.Correlation does not ensure causation
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@barbarian great post, and one i 100% agree with.
I loved game related chat when i played, on both sides. I remember one day i was batting like a fluffybunny (okay that was most days) and after my 10th play and miss 1st slip yelled "if you could fucking bat you would have nicked that". He was probably right on both counts. Next ball was a bit straighter and i attempted an extravagant on drive, got the length a bit wrong and lofted it. Somehow it was still out of the middle, and went one-bounce 4. I immediately turned to said slip and said "if i could fucking bat thay would have gone for 6".
I got out not much later to an extravagant but ill-advised cover drive. If i could fucking bat...
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The mental side of the game is a valid part of the contest and every advantage must be exploited.
I have never lost a game of tennis to my brother because I know he can't handle the pressure of being favoured to win. If ever he was serving for a set. I would stand to the side of the court with my racket in the wrong hand and tell him "JUST GET IT IN PLAY - It's all you have to do. You can do it. There's always gonna be a first time" If I had just called him a stupid fluffybunny whilst an accurate statement it wold have been nowhere near as effective.
Only fucknuckles resort to personal abuse - hence DDD's repeat transgressions - and moniker
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Yeah was always one guy I used to play against in Club Champs for golf, granted he had a far superior short game to me and beat me more often than not with that anyway; I had a superior long game, but he talked me into hitting it out of bounds or into the bunker or into the pond so many times it wasn't funny.
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@barbarian top post, and you'll always find enough sad sports obsessed losers on here to indulge you.
Sledging is what makes fielding fun. I used to captain my team and was a fucking chirpy keeper, always playing the long game trying to wear their best batsmen down mentally. And I'd always have my top sledgers around the bat to analyse their technique and offer "advice" - they were completely wasted out on the boundary.
If Davey was in my team I'd have him permantently stationed at fine leg - his shit-for-brains "sledges" would be a fucking embarrassment and undermine what we were trying to achieve. You need your sharpest, quick witted blokes getting in the batsmens head - it's an artform and not everyone can do it.
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@no-quarter Steady on. You're a poopy head would undermine anyone's confidence and concentration.
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@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@barbarian great post, and one i 100% agree with.
I loved game related chat when i played, on both sides. I remember one day i was batting like a fluffybunny (okay that was most days) and after my 10th play and miss 1st slip yelled "if you could fucking bat you would have nicked that". He was probably right on both counts. Next ball was a bit straighter and i attempted an extravagant on drive, got the length a bit wrong and lofted it. Somehow it was still out of the middle, and went one-bounce 4. I immediately turned to said slip and said "if i could fucking bat thay would have gone for 6".
I admire anyone who can come up with that sort of response so quickly.
I usually think of the perfect response about 8 hours later when trying to get to sleep but stewing on what I should have said ...
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It's funny because i always saw nasty abusive sledging from the opposition as a sure sign they were losing the plot and that we were well on top.
Similarly I have played with a couple of guys who would get a bit abusive, particularly when they were bowling. Used to piss me off because they were gun bowlers when they had their mind on the job but got dragged down into a shit fight when things got nasty.
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Shit about to hit the fan
Rabada's ban overturned, cleared to play in Cape Town
Kagiso Rabada will play in the Cape Town Test after his two-match ban for making physical contact with Steven Smith was overturned by the ICC's code of conduct appeal commissioner Michael Heron
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Wow. Shit is gonna kick off now. Does this set a new precedent for contact in cricket? Bring on the mma shit yo. If you can choke out the bowler before a review decision you can't be out !! Sweet
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@paekakboyz said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Wow. Shit is gonna kick off now. Does this set a new precedent for contact in cricket? Bring on the mma shit yo. If you can choke out the bowler before a review decision you can't be out !! Sweet
Just a ruling that it is acceptable to punch Warner would suffice.
