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  • BonesB Online
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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @cgrant said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @crazy-horse I seriously doubt they're considering it. They may use his boot now and then, but that's about it. As far as I know, Dagg has never played at 10. I think Dagg will end up playing at 14 like last year, with Tamanivalu moving to 11 and Bridge to the bench.

    Didn't he play 10 for the Highlanders in a few games ?

    I decided to check it and the answer is 'no'. All the games he played, he started at fullback (with Ben Smith starting most games at 14). First fives in those days included Dan Bowden, Jayden Hayward, Matt Berquist and Robbie Robinson.

    He certainly learned from the best then.

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    @bones LOL. You beat me to the crack.

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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @crazy-horse said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @footy01 said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    I think we could be struggling for a back up 10.
    If you look at the 5 starting franchise 10s, you have Beauden(Canes), Lima ( Highlanders), Gatland/Perofeta (Blues), Richie ( Crusaders) and Mckenzie/Falcon
    If McKenzie isn’t playing 10 for the chiefs then he can’t really count as a genuine option.
    Richie could be injured for most of the season before the June series.
    So Hansen could be left with picking out of Falcon, Gatland, Perofeta or Hunt for third 10

    When is Dagg due back? Cometh the hour, cometh the man!

    Just saw on instagram that Dagg has returned to training with the Crusaders today!

    First five-eighth problem solved 🙂

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    @booboo said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @crazy-horse said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @footy01 said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    I think we could be struggling for a back up 10.
    If you look at the 5 starting franchise 10s, you have Beauden(Canes), Lima ( Highlanders), Gatland/Perofeta (Blues), Richie ( Crusaders) and Mckenzie/Falcon
    If McKenzie isn’t playing 10 for the chiefs then he can’t really count as a genuine option.
    Richie could be injured for most of the season before the June series.
    So Hansen could be left with picking out of Falcon, Gatland, Perofeta or Hunt for third 10

    When is Dagg due back? Cometh the hour, cometh the man!

    Just saw on instagram that Dagg has returned to training with the Crusaders today!

    First five-eighth problem solved 🙂

    So I'm late to that joke ...

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/102397606/wing-julian-savea-earns-a-callup-to-all-blacks-training-camp

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    @tim Makes sense to invite Julian with all the injuries going around the AB ranks at the moment. Doesn't mean a thing for selection in June, though.

    Oh, how hard would it have been for Bidwell to also include the list of Blues and Chiefs players attending camp?

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    @stargazer Also seems that they are only considering 2017 All Blacks for the camps so far (Coltman aside).

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    The NI camp in Auckland is tomorrow, presumably to allow the Blues players to return from SA. So does that mean that the Chiefs' ABs can't leave for Tokyo until Wed? Poor planning again from Hansen.

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    I doubt the list of canes players came from the ABs, rather from the canes themselves.

    Also Hansen will not be the one planning the actual days of the camps, he would have asked for them but various underlings would have done the organising and negotiating with the teams.

    I'll stop making excuses now 🤪

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    @booboo said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @booboo said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @crazy-horse said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @footy01 said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    I think we could be struggling for a back up 10.
    If you look at the 5 starting franchise 10s, you have Beauden(Canes), Lima ( Highlanders), Gatland/Perofeta (Blues), Richie ( Crusaders) and Mckenzie/Falcon
    If McKenzie isn’t playing 10 for the chiefs then he can’t really count as a genuine option.
    Richie could be injured for most of the season before the June series.
    So Hansen could be left with picking out of Falcon, Gatland, Perofeta or Hunt for third 10

    When is Dagg due back? Cometh the hour, cometh the man!

    Just saw on instagram that Dagg has returned to training with the Crusaders today!

    First five-eighth problem solved 🙂

    So I'm late to that joke ...

    a Five eighth trapped in a fullbacks body ?

    Not a time for jokes .

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    #244

    By my reckoning, currently injured ABs (selected for a NZ AB squad in 2017)

    (Blake Gibson - removed at Stargazer's request)
    Atu Moli
    Dominic Bird
    Kane Hames
    Nepo Laulala
    Dane Coles
    Nehe Milner-Skudder
    Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
    Owen Franks
    Joe Moody
    Tim Perry
    Kieran Read
    Sam Whitelock
    Ryan Crotty
    Israal Dagg
    Richie Mo'unga
    Liam Squire

    The main problem really is the front row...

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    #245

    @billy-tell JTA played for the Hurricanes Dev team last Saturday, and may be available for the main team this Saturday.

    Gibson is not an AB.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @billy-tell JTA played for the Hurricanes Dev team last Saturday, and may be available for the main team this Saturday.

    Gibson is not an AB.

    Gottim yes!

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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @billy-tell JTA played for the Hurricanes Dev team last Saturday, and may be available for the main team this Saturday.

    Gibson is not an AB.

    He was called into the AB squad to replace an injured Sam Cane in 2017.

    If you'd be so good as to read my selection criteria.

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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by Stargazer
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    @billy-tell You mean "selected for a NZ AB squad in 2017"? He never played for the ABs. He has only been in camp with them, just like Riccitelli and possibly a few others. They were only there as injury cover; never played.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    @stargazer said in AB Positions up for grabs:

    @billy-tell You mean "selected for a NZ AB squad in 2017"? He never played for the ABs. He has only been in camp with them, just like Riccitelli and possibly a few others.

    Ah FFS. There is nothing worse than some priick who splits hairs over semantics.

    I know bloody well he didn't play for NZ yet, I don't need a history lesson.

    The point was to put up a list of injured players who were clearly in the AB frame in 2017 - and Gibson was called in to replace Sam Cane when he was concussed.

    If it makes you warm and happy, I'll remove him from the list??

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    @billy-tell he's not from the right province mate

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by Stargazer
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    @mariner4life Yeah, now, if he had included Riccitelli ... 😉

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  • BonesB Online
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    Aren't there a few other Blues destined to be AB greats who are injured and should be on the list? Obviously Otere Black has AB legend written all over him now he's a blue.

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    @bones says head cheerleader for Rob Thomas

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