Wellington Phoenix
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I dont follow soccer and dont know too much about who is who player wise ,
But went to a local derby A league game a few years back ( the same night we played france in the quarter to be exact) the two melbourne sides , and was blown away by the atmosphere ,
Big crowd , and the chanting and singing was full on , never been back though
, but they were all passionate about it ,I think its here to stay in Aus
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The Phoenix remind me a little bit of the Western Force.
A bright start when both franchises debuted but geographically isolated and heading in the wrong direction - in both situations they are/were in constant danger of being dropped from the competition by the governing body.
While there is a strong core of what fans they do have - the fanbase is not great and is much smaller than when they started out.
While each franchise they were able to attract some 'star' players earlier on (Giteau/Daniel) that has really dwindled recently.
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Maybe the Phoenix fans are simply to nice to stir up enough attention and bums on seats?
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@mariner4life said in What is the point of the Phoenix?:
....but what is the point of Wellington....
This is a question I’ve asked many times.
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@hydro11 said in What is the point of the Phoenix?:
I also think it's great that someone like @mariner4life can decide to support a team 11,000 miles away coached by a German and reliant on a couple of Brazilians and a Egyptian, all the while dismissing local football culture. How do you think Liverpool even formed? It was local passionate people who were so small minded that they had a dispute with Everton. That's how clubs are formed, that's what they are built on. I guess if they hadn't done that in 1892, by the time you came along you would have just supported another random club because what's the point in small clubs?
holy shit, i missed this. Really? None of this makes any fucking sense at all super-fan. "local football culture" is 6,000 fans in a 34,000 seat stadium watching a team win once a year? Most of whom probably support a premier league side as well (how dismissive).
Their place is not secure. They are a failure on the pitch (making finals is a lot easier when 60% of the teams in the comp do). The Asian Federation isn't thrilled by the thought of an Oceania side making their Champions League (haha). Even overly optimistic and passionate Aussie soccer writers are starting to see that the A-League is stagnating. And I read an article today that thinks part of it is the lack of pathways for Aussie players. Having 10% of the teams trying to be a pathway for NZ players isn't going to help that.
Little point trying to compare to the Warriors, their own fans acknowledge they are a dumpster fire of epic proportions.
If you would like to change the tack of the argument. Why are they so shit? What needs to change?
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They just kicked out their only player who can actually score
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12186563
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@Chris-B said in What is the point of the Phoenix?:
@jegga I think it is Long Pins I who has given him the boot - not the Phoenix.
Quite why she felt the need to inform the media, I'm not sure.
I only read the headline, life’s too short to read about the Phoenix but now that you bought that to my attention there’s a link in article to her Instagram page. A cursory look indicates she spends a lot of time in various states of undress.
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What is scandalous about all this? Rich, unmarried footballer banging multiple tarts. Time to clutch pearls!
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in What is the point of the Phoenix?:
What is scandalous about all this? Rich, unmarried footballer banging multiple tarts.!
Or as I see it living the dream
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@Stargazer said in What is the point of the Phoenix?:
Hell yeah! Eighth straight win for the Nix!
Win or "not loss"?
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That table doesn't include tonight's win so three points ahead of Adelaide and one point off second, although game in hand for everyone ahead of us.
Impressive comeback tonight, woeful first have but incredible turn around after half time. I can't remember the last time I saw the phoenix playing with that kind of intensity and focus.
Rudan is a great manager. If the phoenix can keep him for three years they'll be doing well. Bigger clubs will be interested soon.
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"What is the point of the Phoenix"? Asks the man who has posted almost 9000 times on a sports forum.
Sometimes I come here to check in on how the rugby fraternity is dealing with other sports being in the limelight for two seconds; and this is the bullshit I always see.
The Phoenix are the only professional football team in New Zealand. Many kids play football in NZ. I'll leave it to you to work out why their continued existence is important to many people.
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@mariner4life you have been told because this new guy means something!!
