Veitch is done
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I didn't know about this, he really is a class act.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10567257&pnum=0
Two of the letters written by high-profile New Zealanders to support Tony Veitch were changed before being used as character references in court. Squash champion Dame Susan Devoy and Olympic chef de mission Dave Currie wrote glowing testimonials for Veitch - thinking their words would be used to help him get his passport returned by the court, not in sentencing submissions. Neither knew Veitch was planning to plead guilty to injuring ex-partner Kristin Dunne-Powell, and both feel they have been misled. The letters from Dame Susan and Mr Currie were changed before being handed to Judge Jan Doogue as part of the court file. Both said sentences referring to the passport were deleted from their original letters. The changes were discovered after the Weekend Herald searched the court file. "Tony indicated he was looking to get his passport back and needed some support for that," Mr Currie said. "My letter talked about that, it was in the last sentence. I can confirm that has been removed. "There's nothing in the letter that I don't stand by. But it was a little surprising [to see the letter] was in a different context." In her letter, Dame Susan said Veitch deserved a chance to get his life back and have the opportunity to work. But when she wrote the letter on Monday she believed it would be used to support Veitch's application to have his passport returned. "To take those letters of support and use them for a different purpose is, in my opinion, a disgrace," said Dame Susan. "I was happy to write to get his passport back, I thought the trial would be in 2010 or later. It's totally totally different to writing a character reference for someone who's pleaded guilty to beating up their girlfriend. We've been used and manipulated. "I'm just so disappointed and upset. Who could have taken out that sentence, which was the whole point of the letter?" she asked. Former Olympic triathlon champion Hamish Carter told the Weekend Herald he had understood the reference he gave to Veitch was for a job interview and was connected to the broadcaster getting his passport released. He said Veitch asked him this week for a reference. Veitch's lawyer, Stuart Grieve, QC, did not return phone calls. Veitch's spokeswoman, Glenda Hughes, yesterday telephoned all those who wrote support letters for Veitch. None knew Veitch was going to plead guilty, but Ms Hughes said only Mr Currie and Dame Susan had raised concerns. The true reason for the references being requested was kept secret because the sentencing indication the day before Veitch pleaded guilty was totally confidential. "We couldn't tell anyone about this, only that the references would go before the court," Ms Hughes said. She could not say who removed the paragraphs referring to the passport. The letters from Dame Susan and Mr Currie were among nearly 20 handed in defence submissions to Judge Doogue in support of Veitch. Others were written by All Black coach Graham Henry, Hamish Carter and Veitch's former TVNZ colleagues Jim Hickey, Susan Wood and Bernadine Oliver-Kerby. Mr Grieve told the court he had never seen such a collection of "glowing" character references in his career. In the Auckland District Court, Judge Doogue told Veitch: "Numerous references from prominent New Zealanders attesting to your good character is a testament to the fact that this single incident is very much out of character." He was sentenced to 300 hours of community work and nine months' supervision, and fined $10,000. Yesterday, Graham Henry issued a statement in response to domestic violence groups that had denounced his letter in support of Veitch. "I don't condone what happened - it was a terrible act - and I would be concerned if any of my comments were misconstrued. "I provided a character reference for him based on the relationship I had with him professionally and my knowledge of the work he had done with sporting clubs and charities." Henry could not be contacted for comment on whether his letter was written for a passport application or sentencing. Among other letter-writers, NZ Golf chief executive Bill McGowan said Veitch was clear that the letter was going to the judge, and "that was fine by me". Former Australian netball captain Kathryn Harby-Williams, a radio colleague of Veitch, declined to comment, saying: 'It's over as far as I'm concerned." re -
haha Susan Devoy!
I loathe him for what he did and his attitude, I followed his FB page as he got a lot of good info there, plenty who liked his FB page used to stick the boot in at every opportunity in the comments.. I don't think I ever listened to his show.
then there is this, which I agree to an extent
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I'm not a fan of his and can't understand how he gets such great interviewees. I hate his (and Devlin's for that matter) fake over-the-top laugh at his guests' jokes, the sycophantic questions or the massive preamble distancing himself from a point of view before asking a 'tough question'.
That said, the list of his co workers celebrating his exit is weird, particularly that Heveldt guy... who I only know because he appeared with Veitch on the NZHerald videos. All these people who have kept their mouth shut but now that it's not controversial or unsafe career wise, they pile on.
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@jegga said in Veitch is done:
I think @MN5 s dream might finally come true , Veitch and Jay Jay doing a show together . You know it makes sense.
Make it a tv panel show with Hilary Barry and John Campbell and special guests Polly Gillespie and Ursula Carlson.
Then I will go postal.
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@mn5 said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
I think @MN5 s dream might finally come true , Veitch and Jay Jay doing a show together . You know it makes sense.
Make it a tv panel show with Hilary Barry and John Campbell and special guests Polly Gillespie and Ursula Carlson.
Then I will go postal.
Heres your new screensaver.
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@taniwharugby said in Veitch is done:
haha Susan Devoy!
I loathe him for what he did and his attitude, I followed his FB page as he got a lot of good info there, plenty who liked his FB page used to stick the boot in at every opportunity in the comments.. I don't think I ever listened to his show.
then there is this, which I agree to an extent
Yep. 200k 'likes' but at least half of these were just there to hurl abuse. The admin must have been kept fucken busy deleting all the nasty comments he got.
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@jegga said in Veitch is done:
@mn5 said in Veitch is done:
@jegga said in Veitch is done:
I think @MN5 s dream might finally come true , Veitch and Jay Jay doing a show together . You know it makes sense.
Make it a tv panel show with Hilary Barry and John Campbell and special guests Polly Gillespie and Ursula Carlson.
Then I will go postal.
Heres your new screensaver.
@jegga that post is pure evil.
Xmas is coming up and to remotely enjoy it I now have to try everything in my power to expunge those pics from my memory.
In fact those pictures are enough to put a halt to @Mokey s career writing lesbo porn books (sorry, romance novels)
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Thankfully living in Oz I haven't had to be subjected to Veitch - except for TR frequently updating us with stuff from his FB page.
I'm unsurprised his colleagues put the boot into him. I think I've told the story of how I spent some time in his company in Queenstown (Winterfest I think) the early 2000s as my radio mates were colleagues of his, and he was pretty much universally loathed by them all back then. He was just a gobshite the entire time as well.
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@kirwan said in Veitch is done:
Not a fan of Veitch, but pretty uncomfortable that after going through the courts for his assault he is now being re-punished by losing jobs.
Agree, but any role in the public eye is pretty volatile. Even non-illegal things can ruin careers. As I said in the other thread, he's best to concentrate on something out of the public eye - people will pretty quickly forget about him then and he can just get on with his life. He shouldn't be punished forever but he needs to be realistic.
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@mokey said in Veitch is done:
@jegga Veitch, Jay Jay, Polly...and Max Key with the sounds.
Branching out into horror stories, are you?
I didn't find Veitch particularly annoying - he'd usually have a succession of excellent guests and he mainly asked them sensible questions. Made for a pretty good sports show and if I'm driving at the weekend that's what the radio is playing. I will miss that, unless Radiosport can find someone with an equally good contacts book.
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@chris-b said in Veitch is done:
@mokey said in Veitch is done:
@jegga Veitch, Jay Jay, Polly...and Max Key with the sounds.
Branching out into horror stories, are you?
Heh. No, there is enough of that in real life. I'll stick to historical smut.
And re Veitch, it may be nothing to do with old stuff, but perhaps something new that his employers couldn't deal with and his colleagues have an inkling of. Who knows.
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@milk said in Veitch is done:
I'm not a fan of his and can't understand how he gets such great interviewees. I hate his (and Devlin's for that matter) fake over-the-top laugh at his guests' jokes, the sycophantic questions or the massive preamble distancing himself from a point of view before asking a 'tough question'.
I never understood how he got a job again. I disliked the majority of his interviews, his "we're best mates" presentation style and his utter lack of analysis. I often thought to myself how small a pond New Zealand must be for this clown to have a gig.
That said, the list of his co workers celebrating his exit is weird, particularly that Heveldt guy... who I only know because he appeared with Veitch on the NZHerald videos. All these people who have kept their mouth shut but now that it's not controversial or unsafe career wise, they pile on.
See Weinstein...
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@antipodean said in Veitch is done:
@milk said in Veitch is done:
I'm not a fan of his and can't understand how he gets such great interviewees. I hate his (and Devlin's for that matter) fake over-the-top laugh at his guests' jokes, the sycophantic questions or the massive preamble distancing himself from a point of view before asking a 'tough question'.
I never understood how he got a job again. I disliked the majority of his interviews, his "we're best mates" presentation style and his utter lack of analysis. I often thought to myself how small a pond New Zealand must be for this clown to have a gig.
That said, the list of his co workers celebrating his exit is weird, particularly that Heveldt guy... who I only know because he appeared with Veitch on the NZHerald videos. All these people who have kept their mouth shut but now that it's not controversial or unsafe career wise, they pile on.
See Weinstein...
Yeah, it really does remind me of what's happening in Hollywood right now in terms of some of the bandwagon-ing.
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@kirwan said in Veitch is done:
Not a fan of Veitch, but pretty uncomfortable that after going through the courts for his assault he is now being re-punished by losing jobs.
I'm not. His career is in the public eye. This isn't a private citizen we're talking about and if a prospective employer does the maths and on reflection decides it's best he doesn't work for them, so be it.
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@antipodean said in Veitch is done:
@kirwan said in Veitch is done:
Not a fan of Veitch, but pretty uncomfortable that after going through the courts for his assault he is now being re-punished by losing jobs.
I'm not. His career is in the public eye. This isn't a private citizen we're talking about and if a prospective employer does the maths and on reflection decides it's best he doesn't work for them, so be it.
Fine to have that opinion if you're consistent with it. As was mentioned further up, a few All Blacks (for example) not held to the same standard.
